Post #76
to prove both fans workwork out which relay is 1508,
remove the relay
and bridge pins 3-5 in the socket without the relay plugged in but leave all the other relays in
you should get slow speed with the ign off
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 cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
work out which relay is 1508, remove the relay and bridge pins 3-5 in the socket without the relay plugged in but leave all the other relays in you should get slow speed with the ign off |
 Posted 19th Sep 2014 at 12:33
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro  Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #77
Ok so the saga continues!Bridged the one relay (I thought whats 1508) only one fan spun, bridged the other one (clearly 1508!!) and BOTH fans spun! So at least i know i have working fans and wiring... Checklist: 1) Working fans 2) New black 5 pin relay 3) Other 2 relays must work as when i switch them over the one fan still operates - although this isnt a 100% guarantee? So in conclusion, if the bridging cully advised above works, does that conclude it must be the bitron thing? |
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Posted 19th Sep 2014 at 14:41
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cully
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Post #78
double check F12 F15 and F2 fuse inside the car as that will stop the high/low speed fans workingif that is ok your next port of call is the fan controller (bitron box) as this is the unit that controls the three fan relays and the A/c relay it is located above the horns on the N/S inner wing you may just have crap connections in the plug as it often gets drowned under the wheel arch or it could be dead   |
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Posted 19th Sep 2014 at 15:16
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Chr1sch
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Post #79
You sir are a legend!Thanks I'll check that next... |
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Posted 19th Sep 2014 at 15:52
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Chr1sch
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Post #80
Interestingly a/c is dead too... |
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Posted 19th Sep 2014 at 15:52
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cully
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Post #81
most AC on 306's is dead due to loss of pressure from coroded lower condensor pipesAC will fail safe if there is an issue with it i wouldnt think its related more of a second problem....can of worms |
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Posted 19th Sep 2014 at 16:37
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Chr1sch
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Post #82
Thanks again cully, Would this be the same?! Look at this on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=300635839683 CITROEN SYNERGIE XANTIA PEUGEOT RADIATOR FAN ECU 9633609680 CCTuP5/BVA2 BITRON Cheers Chris |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 20:12
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cully
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Post #83
honest answer is i dont know you need to check the part numbers |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 20:29
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #84
1338 A1 is the unit listed for a git6, temps of 96/118 listed for it, it is listed for an XU10J2 806, so it will work, a TD one is listed at 90/101 for early models or straight 118 for later ones.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 20:40
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cully
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Post #85
good man i trawled service box and couldn't find the bloody thing  |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 20:51
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Chr1sch
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Post #86
Thanks guys, sounds like I may be better off looking for the exact one rather than this one then? (Appreciate you said it would work, not clear if that was as a compromise or equally well as the actual one for a gti6?) |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 22:08
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Chr1sch
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Post #87
Welshpug do you have the part number for 1138 a1? |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 22:12
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demondriverdan
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Post #88
Aha, now I know what you mean by the bitron unit. Will see if my Dad can take if off the shell for you.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 22:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #89
Chr1sch wrote: Welshpug do you have the part number for 1138 a1? errrrrrrrrr.....  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 22:20
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Chr1sch
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Post #90
I get what you're saying Welshpug but most seen to have a longer number like this :PEUGEOT 206 406 CITROEN COOLING FAN RELAY . MANUFACTURED BY BITRON . PART NUMBER 9633609780 . COLOUR BLACK . ITEM IS USED & IN GOOD WORKING ORDER |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 22:46
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Chr1sch
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Post #91
demondriverdan wrote: Aha, now I know what you mean by the bitron unit. Will see if my Dad can take if off the shell for you. Thanks! Only 2x10mm bolts! |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 23:10
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #92
He's going to check tomorrow, will let you know  ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 23:30
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cully
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Post #93
the longer numbers are normaly the manufacturers numberspeugeot use a 6 digit letter system ****.** |
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Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 08:02
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Chr1sch
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Post #94
Oh thanks, every day is a school day lol |
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Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 09:38
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demondriverdan
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Post #95
Here's the box I've got on the car. Any good?  ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 17:01
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #96
Cully/Welshpug can you advise? Mine says bitron on it rather than g Cartier? If this has come off another gti6 is it going to be the same? Cheers guys!!! Chris |
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Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 18:38
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Chr1sch
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Post #97
Incidentally I've looked at the connectors on my bitron one and they were all fine bar one which was totally covered in white crusty stuff. I've cleaned it and tried unplugging the brown plug but no avail...I have also bridged the one relay to check and both fans definitely spin up, there's nothing else bar the bitron I should now be suspecting is there? If someone can confirm if that box above is ok I'll buy it ASAP for sure :-) |
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Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 18:41
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Chr1sch
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Post #98
Here's mine  |
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Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 18:44
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demondriverdan
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Post #99
The lugs line up on the two boxes but that could just be the design is the same. Yours looks like a Ph3, which is what this came off.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 21:36
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Chr1sch
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Post #100
I think mine is a 2.5, cully/welsh either of you have any idea if it would be a feasible replacement?Dan, how much do you want for it posted? (The one above on eBay was £14 as a point of ref but they do vary..) Cheers Chris |
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