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 cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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I need to get some bars welded into my car to attach the side mounts to for new seats.Is there any specific stuff I should go for? I have seen round bars etc, but I assume box section is better/easier? Any pics or advice to help me out would be great  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
 Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 21:56
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #2
I used angle iron  ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 22:03
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,637 Status: Offline |
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I need some for my car too, CDS is what is advisable from what i've read, i think around 25mm dia, also, according to the blue book the plates at each end should have an area at least 40cm^2 and be 3mm thick.I don't think i'll ever be entering mine into a race series so i'm tempted to just use some ERW 25mm tube with a 2mm wall as its infinitely cheaper than CDS.  There are kits you can buy on ebay and other places at around £40 a seat. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 22:08
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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prism7guy wrote: I need some for my car too, CDS is what is advisable from what i've read, i think around 25mm dia, also, according to the blue book the plates at each end should have an area at least 40cm^2 and be 3mm thick. I don't think i'll ever be entering mine into a race series so i'm tempted to just use some ERW 25mm tube with a 2mm wall as its infinitely cheaper than CDS. There are kits you can buy on ebay and other places at around £40 a seat. I will try get some quotes as aim to get it done at the weekend. What did you search for on ebay to find them?  link please?  Cheers Ste ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 22:30
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,637 Status: Offline |
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Weld-Seat-Mount-Rail-Kit-/270929230058?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f14a3f8ea I just searched seat mount kit. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 22:41
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,282 Status: Offline |
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Wrong section f**kwit  |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 22:46
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #7
roland rat wrote: Wrong section f**kwit Good point! ADMIN!  ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 23:34
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,793 Status: Offline |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 08:23
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T400 PUG
Banned! Location: Burnley Registered: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 641 Status: Offline |
Post #9
problem i found was the exhaust tunnel in the way for the driver. It really needs cutting out to get a seat low and in the middle. They ended up fixing one side directly to the top of the tunnel and the other on some bars. If you want to do it right you need to take off the exhaust tunnel cover piece. Large but it should come off if you attack all the spot welds. |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 08:28
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Moved to correct section! ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 08:32
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,793 Status: Offline |
Post #11
mine were fine, took a while to get them right but the seat was perfect and i had no problems whatsoever. this was on a phase1, doubt there's a difference though________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 08:34
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #12
roland rat wrote: Wrong section f**kwit Cheers dickcheese, realised that after I posted it  (Admin, please move)Cheers for the replies lads, but £30-£40 per seat seems a little steep. Will see what the local places can offer me. ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 08:35
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: mine were fine, took a while to get them right but the seat was perfect and i had no problems whatsoever. this was on a phase1, doubt there's a difference though I did his, centralised the seating position to his wheel and pedal setup - ends up quite a lot further over if you want to be sat dead square, made getting back in mine after feel like I was driving sideways for a while  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 09:32
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #14
phillipm wrote: rikky wrote: mine were fine, took a while to get them right but the seat was perfect and i had no problems whatsoever. this was on a phase1, doubt there's a difference though I did his, centralised the seating position to his wheel and pedal setup - ends up quite a lot further over if you want to be sat dead square, made getting back in mine after feel like I was driving sideways for a while Want to make a kit up for me so I can get it welded in?  Not fussed about CDS as not a race car, just a weekend/track car. Let me know if you can, cheers ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 09:45
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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cjm_harris wrote: roland rat wrote: Wrong section f**kwit Cheers dickcheese, realised that after I posted it (Admin, please move)Cheers for the replies lads, but £30-£40 per seat seems a little steep. Will see what the local places can offer me. Don't skimp on seat mountings, they take a massive loading and in the event of a severe side impact or rollover are forced to cope with a huge ammount of G forces. If the seat tears out you face very serious injury. Don't assume local garages and fab shops know what's required, give the work to someone with experience of motorsport preparation or look up the MSA specs and give the fabricator a clear idea of what you need. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 09:49
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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cjm_harris wrote: phillipm wrote: rikky wrote: mine were fine, took a while to get them right but the seat was perfect and i had no problems whatsoever. this was on a phase1, doubt there's a difference though I did his, centralised the seating position to his wheel and pedal setup - ends up quite a lot further over if you want to be sat dead square, made getting back in mine after feel like I was driving sideways for a while Want to make a kit up for me so I can get it welded in? Not fussed about CDS as not a race car, just a weekend/track car. Let me know if you can, cheers CDS means seamless (Stronger) not T45 which is stronger still allowing you to use less (Lighter) ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 09:53
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I have mine set low. I had to remove that pointless bit of metal thats spot welded to the floor under the seats to fit my bucket seats. Didnt have to cut any of the exhaust tunnel either________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 09:53
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #18
do it properly, sling them down low, you can always lift the seat with the side mounts also position the harness plates properly, centre one directly under the seat, rear ones on the harness bar etc. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 10:23
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braymond
Seasoned Pro  Location: Brighton Registered: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,163 Status: Offline |
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Chris, I used 40mm box section for mine. Loacted it over the little horizontal barrel where the original seat mount is on the sill, and welded the other end (with a plate) to the transmition tunnel. Much like this http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=113226 but with box rather than tube. I used 50mm box to bring up the height to level for the front ________________________________________ Rallye-RNurburgring article |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 10:30
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: do it properly, sling them down low, you can always lift the seat with the side mounts also position the harness plates properly, centre one directly under the seat, rear ones on the harness bar etc. TITS! Forgot about harness plates braymond wrote: Chris, I used 40mm box section for mine. Loacted it over the little horizontal barrel where the original seat mount is on the sill, and welded the other end (with a plate) to the transmition tunnel. Much like this http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=113226 but with box rather than tube. I used 50mm box to bring up the height to level for the front So why cant I do it this way? Surely that will be strong/decent enough? That was along the lines I was thinking of. ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 10:57
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braymond
Seasoned Pro Location: Brighton Registered: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,163 Status: Offline |
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I think some people are keen to get the seat lower than than this option allows. Works for me though, but then, I stand at a mighty 5'7"...________________________________________ Rallye-RNurburgring article |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 11:05
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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braymond wrote: I think some people are keen to get the seat lower than than this option allows. Works for me though, but then, I stand at a mighty 5'7"... Very good point. I may as well get it done properly if I am getting it done. Plus, as Mei said, if I make it low as possible, I can make the seat higher using the side mounts. ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 11:08
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,282 Status: Offline |
Post #23
cjm_harris wrote: roland rat wrote: Wrong section f**kwit Cheers dickcheese, realised that after I posted it (Admin, please move)Cheers for the replies lads, but £30-£40 per seat seems a little steep. Will see what the local places can offer me. Go on skimp,then break your neck when it goes tits up f**kface |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 11:54
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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the onese on my 205 ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 11:57
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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roland rat wrote: cjm_harris wrote: roland rat wrote: Wrong section f**kwit Cheers dickcheese, realised that after I posted it (Admin, please move)Cheers for the replies lads, but £30-£40 per seat seems a little steep. Will see what the local places can offer me. Go on skimp,then break your neck when it goes tits up f**kface Going for ones on Rally design site, and doing it properly. Thanks for the comments though knobrot ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 12:19
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