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 owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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jimmyhackers wrote: asking them to make sure a water resevoir other than the radiator is topped up is beyond most (motorists) ability. Have you built it yet? ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
 Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 13:40
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro  Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,113 Status: Offline |
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yes granted that thing is a tiny tesla turbine with a cheap dynamo on it however that dynao is far to small for what the unit can actually output. the turbine design is more efficient than older steam engines. and my boiler isnt quite like a conventional boiler.its going to be a coil of 1/4" copper wrapped around and braised to the exhaust then heat taped for max heat absorbtion. this should be far more efficient than old style boilers as for my cat...........well i would tell you but i dont know where its gone  bmw are going down the peltier seenbeck route, which as ive said is slightly different and you get electrical power not mechanical. they seem to of overcomplicated the matter with water cooling one side of the plate and made it rather expesive. ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 15:41
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Really? You think the surface area and thermal conductance of a thin, tubular, mild steel exhaust, which has a smooth inner bore and minimal contact with the exhaust plume, is going to be better than those conventional boilers with miles of thin-wall, small bore copper tube right in the heat path?OK then. Have fun. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 15:45
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Pwned!________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 15:54
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Can people please stop giving arguments as to why this is clearly a bad idea please, I want to see it done.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 16:35
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #31
It might work better with a copper exhaust pipe with the coil soldered directly to it, that would get you some better heat transfer at any rate, I think it's going to be a srtuggle to get the kind of heat required for steam of sufficient pressure/volume to run a turbine though. That and the fact that on a short journey from cold or long periods sat at ldle you effectively won't have a charger at all, as you will have to thrash it to build up a head of steam powerful enough to turn the compressor, f*ck that for a laugh.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 18:33
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,113 Status: Offline |
Post #32
i was going to braise the coil to the exhaust with silver solder to aid heat transfer aswell as wrap the exhaust and the coil so more heat is trapped inside. im not doubting a boiler may be more refined, but id argue there heat source isnt as intense as that from exhaust gases.yes putting the copper pipe inside the pipe and directly in the flow of the gases would be more efficient but means a lot more fabrication. :S im experimenting at the moment as i said on my 1.4 im not expecting this to turn my car into a beast. its a proof of concept. the next step after getting it to run the tiny telsa would be stepping up the dynamo on the turbine to see what kind of of kw it can generate from that i can deduce a rough bhp figure. and see wether its worth investing in a larger turbine or making the exhaust more efficient or to call it a day on bhp gains and convert it to make tea ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 22:59
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #33
Do it already.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 08:05
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m306
Seasoned Pro  Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #34
any progress on this? its been nearly a month...________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:12
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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m306 wrote: any progress on this? its been nearly a month... He's probably changed his mind and moved onto another revolutionary idea lke using the power of his own farts to raise manifold pressure and enable a faster burn on the combustion cycle... ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:23
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #36
m306 wrote: any progress on this? its been nearly a month... I think he's enthusiasm ran out of steam. I'll get my coat. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:27
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Tumbleweed...________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:30
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #38
no offence intended but why is he allowed to use the technical forums? is it for the comedy factor? because it definitely isnt for technical knowledge  ive even seen advice on brakes along the lines of "to measure for disk warping put on a flat surface"???? wtf happened to using a dial gauge like everyone else? sorry ive gone off topic but i just cant understand this guy. would love to see if the steam charger works though  ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:37
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Because he's the only guy who still posts in the technical forums.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:39
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: Because he's the only guy who still posts in the technical forums. fair point. what happened to the sig? its been toned down ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:40
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #41
m306 wrote: what happened to the sig? its been toned down It's a newfangled Derren Brown subconscious method of making people hate me, first demonstrated in this thread. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:43
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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m306 wrote: no offence intended but why is he allowed to use the technical forums? is it for the comedy factor? because it definitely isnt for technical knowledge ive even seen advice on brakes along the lines of "to measure for disk warping put on a flat surface"???? wtf happened to using a dial gauge like everyone else? sorry ive gone off topic but i just cant understand this guy. would love to see if the steam charger works though Cos he paid his membership fee? Instant forum expert status is garanteed  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:45
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: Cos he paid his membership fee? Instant forum expert status is garanteed Only on this forum could people post up in General, get shot down and told to pay so they can post in Technical, only to be abused for posting in Technical having paid. Anyway who cares, where's my f*cking group buy on steam superchargers? ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:47
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: m306 wrote: no offence intended but why is he allowed to use the technical forums? is it for the comedy factor? because it definitely isnt for technical knowledge ive even seen advice on brakes along the lines of "to measure for disk warping put on a flat surface"???? wtf happened to using a dial gauge like everyone else? sorry ive gone off topic but i just cant understand this guy. would love to see if the steam charger works though Cos he paid his membership fee? Instant forum expert status is garanteed forum expert you say? maybe i should ask him where to put my stickers   ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:47
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: Only on this forum could people post up in General, get shot down and told to pay so they can post in Technical, only to be abused for posting in Technical having paid. yeah but i thought common sense says you don't answer technical questions and give advice if you don't know what you're talking about?? i don't have the greatest mechanical knowledge therefor i wouldn't tell someone how to do an engine swap (for example). so he shouldn't give incorrect advice on brakes. but please do continue with the steam charger quest ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 7th Dec 2011 at 23:51
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: daveyboy wrote: Cos he paid his membership fee? Instant forum expert status is garanteed Only on this forum could people post up in General, get shot down and told to pay so they can post in Technical, only to be abused for posting in Technical having paid. Anyway who cares, where's my f*cking group buy on steam superchargers? You're a nob ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 8th Dec 2011 at 00:01
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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m306 wrote: i thought common sense says you don't answer technical questions and give advice if you don't know what you're talking about?? Oh crap, I definitely did not get *that* memo. That's me out then. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 8th Dec 2011 at 00:01
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #48
daveyboy wrote: You're a nob IT'S WORKING!!! ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 8th Dec 2011 at 00:02
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #49
owain wrote: daveyboy wrote: You're a nob IT WORKED . ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 8th Dec 2011 at 00:04
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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m306 wrote: forum expert you say? maybe i should ask him where to put my stickers If I did'nt think it would make you cry, I'd tell you exactly where to put yer bloody stickers!  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 8th Dec 2011 at 00:04
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