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 vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro  Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
Post #51
welshpug! wrote: AST will do remote res if you ask nicely  I think Curtis will be putting the rear dampers back on Adam's 306 on tuesdaythey even list it for the Xsara, but if I were that rich I wouldn't drive a Xsara... ain't?  ________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
 Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 02:28
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #52
welshpug! wrote: AST will do remote res if you ask nicely I think Curtis will be putting the rear dampers back on Adam's 306 on tuesday I'm not gonna advise either way 'cause I've been in a few cars with AST's and they are very nice ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 02:48
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #53
I don't know how much they are, probably about the same price as some of these, they are black and orange.never understood how the shim stack and valving works properly, it does look strikingly familiar though as I've got a Fox Air shock in Anodised black on my bike, 3 way adjustable and lockout :p ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 03:13
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #54
The discs deflect to allow fluid flow.The shape, size and the top clamp on the stack as well as the thickness of each shim in the stack, the size and shape of the port, it's position on the piston, and the width of the valve seats, all contribute to the size and shape of the damping curve, along with many other factors. Most of the money in more expensive shocks goes into external adjustablity and getting those adjusters as independent from one another as possible, as well as one way check valves in the bleeds, etc. (don't need those 'cause we're getting away without any bleed holes) ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 03:31
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #55
ahhh ko  and the reservoir gives higher oil capacity to reduce overheating which could lead to cavitation as well as having the pressurised section on top? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 03:33
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #56
Yes, which also allows me to create some spring assitance pressure - without overheating the damper.It also shifts the floating piston outside of the damper body which allows for more travel/shorter body for the same travel. And in my case it holds some secondary valving in the form of a rotary barrel bleed valve and a digressive blow-off shim/ports for the adjuster. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 21:49
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #57
 ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™  Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 05:11
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #58
= ooh shiny bits________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 05:14
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dr-evil
Senior User  Location: Crewe Registered: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 901 Status: Offline |
Post #59
Good to know i wasn't the only one excited by these sexyful little beasties...now i have to find something to clean up my drool  ________________________________________ Cad Monkey will work for chocolate biscuits....I'm not kidding |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 05:32
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #60
I'm excited I finally got there in the end, 's only took 9 months....   ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 05:34
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midlife
Seasoned Pro Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #61
phillipm wrote: I'm excited I finally got there in the end, 's only took 9 months.... And the rest Jean Luc  ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 15:36
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #62
Now to crack on with the rest of the work for the fronts.... ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Sep 2009 at 16:00
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #63
Spring rate assistance, (graph in the bottom left corner), the preload is variable from the gas pressure, the assist rate they have to come back to me to change, but it's only a 5 minute job: ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 6th Sep 2009 at 16:02
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #64
 ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 6th Sep 2009 at 16:30
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #65
24lb/inch extra rear spring rate, and 32lb of preload from the gas (ever noticed that putting Bilstiens on raises your car up a little, that's the preload from the gas pressure - the difference between the two lines).What you'd get with a normal gas-pressurised monotube damper then (Bilsteins/AST/Proflex/etc, etc), would be a virtually flat line at 32lb of force - well, the force levels would differ depending upon the gas pressure and the shaft size, but it'd be flat anyway. Not so interesting for those of you with uprated torsion bars, but for everyone else, this means you can have 25-35% more rear spring rate without spending ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 6th Sep 2009 at 18:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #66
Hmmmmm verrrrry interesting!Yeah should be getting the rears back on tuesday with a new ball joint. Will then finally be able to test things properly. (Thats Adam B talking not Meirion btw) ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Sep 2009 at 14:49
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #67
More shiny things!________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 6th Sep 2009 at 18:36
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #68
that is interesting indeed!these are looking very promising....now more pics of shiney things!!! ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 6th Sep 2009 at 18:48
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #69
Well, it'll probably take me another year to get the pennies and develop, but these'll be your matching shiny fronts...with some alterations to the mountings... 3 ways....  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 6th Sep 2009 at 19:14
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #70
 surely they aren't the ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 6th Sep 2009 at 21:35
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #71
Those ones are rather more expensive, but if you don't spec. the adjuster tubes they'll be about the same price as the rears  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 7th Sep 2009 at 02:24
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #72
so would they still be pretty similar, remote res. etc., just without adjustability?I think I'd just end up messing up the settings anyway ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 7th Sep 2009 at 03:15
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #73
Yes, same bodies as those.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 7th Sep 2009 at 03:16
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #74
clen666 has attached the following image: ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 7th Sep 2009 at 03:41
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jimmy_boy
Senior User  Location: Christchurch Registered: 09 Jun 2003 Posts: 14,751 Status: Offline |
Post #75
puglover wrote: are there any dust boots? cannot harm the precious (In a smeagol fashion)________________________________________ GTI-6 & RallyeRallye gets sideways in the wet at Snetterton  |
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Posted 7th Sep 2009 at 03:44
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