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ajmckeane

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Evening, right hopefully some people will have some ideas for my car before I put it over the edge of a bridge!

Last week I went out to my car turn the key, heard the starter click but nothing else. Absolutely no power after that, not even lights on the dash, horn working or lights on. Took battery out trickle charged over night, placed back in the car and followed the FAQ for seeing if there was a drain, couldn't see one at all and took it at that time as possibly just lots of short journeys and lack of use since COVID.

However the same happened again 2 days later. Got an auto electrician out who looked over it, stated there was no drain, found the alternator was charging well and he found the positive connection was quite bad so cleaned it up and suggested a new battery was needed.

Luckily the battery had a lifetime guarantee so took it back and got a brand new Bosch S5. Installed and started fine this morning, took daughter to nursery, then went to work. 9 hrs later come back to car and turned the key and got the same result, starter clicked but didn't turn over and no power at all. This would come and go (such as doing the same thing and minutes later turn the key and nothing happened at all). It seems to me that it might be a connection issue somewhere, perhaps an earth or dodgy wore somewhere?

However although I've had my car nearly 12 yes now I'm not great with electrics, anyone got any advice? I've got the auto electrician coming back but would want some ideas to throw at him.

Many thanks for reading

Andrew

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Posted 16th Jun 2020 at 23:23
sageman

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Post #2
sounds like battery connection somewhere
once your new battery was connected did everything (time/temperature) lights in the dashboard etc suddenly go that would be a sign of this as the connection could be good enough to run them but not good enough to run the starter motor

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 02:19
ajmckeane

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Yes, once I turned the key I heard a click (which I presume was the starter) and then everything switched off, no lights, clock etc

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 07:54
Carl GTI

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Have you checked that the earth strap hasn't corroded?
Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 08:39
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Yeah, I'd agree with carl and be looking at the earth's, especially the main one in the gearbox. I think I've also heard of the +ve battery cable corroding and dying. Easily replaced, be worth looking at that too

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 09:44
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Check and clean all the earths, especially the main gearbox one.

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 10:24
eiei0

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Could it be a relay sticking??
Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 11:17
pug_306

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Yeah sounds like the positive battery terminal. Cut it off and put a new one on it

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 11:50
Carl GTI

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jeffers wrote:
Check and clean all the earths, especially the main gearbox one.


Out of interest, how may are there, and where are they located?
Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 12:53
ajmckeane

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So the positive terminal to the gearbox and then over to the passenger side bay near to the battery box were taken off, cleaned and then put back together. So far so good, the cable that goes from the positive terminal to the gearbox probably needs replacing as the cable is fraying slightly at the base. However this is one continuous cable over to the earth beneath the battery box. Could I use two separate leads (battery - gearbox gearbox - battery box) or does it all have to be crimped into a union as is on there at present?

Many thanks for the advice as well

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 13:08
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positive terminal DOES NOT go to the gearbox, thats an earth point.

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 15:33
ajmckeane

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Where should my positive battery cable go then? I may be wrong about it being the gearbox then. It is about 18" long and goes down beneath the thermostat housing u think, which is then crimped to another cable that travels to what j presume is an earth point near the base of the battery box

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 16:20
pug_306

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The positive terminal is the one nearest the front of the car. Feeds the starter / alternator

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Posted 17th Jun 2020 at 17:26
deeturbo

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Post #14
I had a similar on a car, go to start and a noise from starter and then nothing but a dead car, no lights no nothing. It was almost like a fuse had blown.

On my car it turned out to be crap on the battery terminal and the terminal clamp. Cleaned both up and it's been great since.

I also clean up the earths which had helped with brighter lights guess there was a voltage drop on crusty earths.

The battery negative goes to the back of the gearbox near the block and the chassis leg.
Posted 29th Jun 2020 at 11:19
Carl GTI

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Did you ever get to the bottom of this Andrew?
Posted 26th Aug 2020 at 18:33

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