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Author Subject: Throttle Bodies Manifold question
turboblack

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Post #1
As per title. What the better choice? Short inlet befor bodies or long one?

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306cab 2.0 16v:
Wossner 12:1
45mm Jenvey
Piper 285H
6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD
406 Brembo
D2 Suspension
E-tech Strut Brace
Emerald K6 Ecu
Posted 10th May 2015 at 02:30
welshpug!

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Post #2
long, within reason.

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Posted 10th May 2015 at 05:51
turboblack

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Post #3
Mmm, because with a short inlet I'll get more space for the airbox liters. Now with twm induction manifold my piper airbox are so close to the radiator.

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306cab 2.0 16v:
Wossner 12:1
45mm Jenvey
Piper 285H
6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD
406 Brembo
D2 Suspension
E-tech Strut Brace
Emerald K6 Ecu
Posted 10th May 2015 at 10:45
welshpug!

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Post #4
I have longer inlet and plenty of space still.

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Posted 10th May 2015 at 13:00
Day666

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Post #5
welshpug! wrote:
I have longer inlet and plenty of space still.


What trumpet size will I get away with Mei on my 6 ?....please be 100% sure because They arn't cheap ?
They will be Satchell ...same as inlet & yours ???
Do you have more room than a 6
Posted 20th May 2015 at 07:28
welshpug!

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Post #6
I have 90mm trumpets, but shorter bodies, could probably fit longer.

check the pics on my thread

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Posted 20th May 2015 at 08:05
Day666

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Post #7
welshpug! wrote:
I have 90mm trumpets, but shorter bodies, could probably fit longer.

check the pics on my thread


Thought all Jenvey bodies were same length Mei ?
Posted 20th May 2015 at 12:14
welshpug!

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Post #8
nope, check the website Wink

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Posted 20th May 2015 at 10:16
Day666

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Post #9
welshpug! wrote:
nope, check the website Wink


How much Difference in length ???
Mine are 900 something the shortest they do ?
Posted 20th May 2015 at 12:34
welshpug!

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Post #10
91mm you mean !

they do shorter than that but yes thats what I have and with 90mm trumpets, a really deep air filter flat backplate and weber pico injectors, if you use gti6 full size injectors you need a stepped backplate and a shorter filter.

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Posted 20th May 2015 at 13:44
Day666

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Post #11
welshpug! wrote:
91mm you mean !

they do shorter than that but yes thats what I have and with 90mm trumpets, a really deep air filter flat backplate and weber pico injectors, if you use gti6 full size injectors you need a stepped backplate and a shorter filter.


Yes 91.mm Typo error ...
Surly its worth going stepped back plate & shorter air filter ...arnt the injectors crazy money to buy & I do really want x8 matching ?
Any disadvantage using x8 old 6 injectors???
I've got someone close to me who's prepaired to check & clean them on a machine ????

I've got two matching Fuel rails coming tomorrow & I'm thinking of running them both from a separate 3 bar fixed fuel regulator ???
Not planning using stnd 6 rail now !!!
What model stepped back plate there are loads & loads LOL
What thickness & size Mei ?
Posted 20th May 2015 at 13:59
welshpug!

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Post #12
you dont need separate FPR's, there's no need

a set of matching injectors makes mapping a little easier but the ones I have are very close in flow to the gti6 ones.

I use the standard fuel rail injectors and fpr, the front rail is fed from the tank and the return goes to the standard rail, any other setup is just wasting money.

there's only one stepped backplate.


Who do you know that can clean injectors? I need to get a few sets checked as one of mine was duff.

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Posted 20th May 2015 at 14:44
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Post #13
welshpug! wrote:
you dont need separate FPR's, there's no need

a set of matching injectors makes mapping a little easier but the ones I have are very close in flow to the gti6 ones.

I use the standard fuel rail injectors and fpr, the front rail is fed from the tank and the return goes to the standard rail, any other setup is just wasting money.

there's only one stepped backplate.


Who do you know that can clean injectors? I need to get a few sets checked as one of mine was duff.


How many you got need checking & cleaning ?
I'm paying nothing for these fuel rails ....just need FPR & bingo x
Posted 20th May 2015 at 15:07
welshpug!

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8 or 12 Smile

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Posted 20th May 2015 at 15:42
welshpug!

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20140905_171609 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr

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Posted 20th May 2015 at 15:53
turboblack

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Post #16
After tinypic upload the images I'll post the pic's of what I'll mean.

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306cab 2.0 16v:
Wossner 12:1
45mm Jenvey
Piper 285H
6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD
406 Brembo
D2 Suspension
E-tech Strut Brace
Emerald K6 Ecu
Posted 20th May 2015 at 17:54
turboblack

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Post #17
From head:
-Inlet manifold

-Jenvey's

-Airbox

-Radiator clearance

-General view for inclination angle

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306cab 2.0 16v:
Wossner 12:1
45mm Jenvey
Piper 285H
6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD
406 Brembo
D2 Suspension
E-tech Strut Brace
Emerald K6 Ecu
Posted 20th May 2015 at 18:03
Day666

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Post #18
welshpug! wrote:
8 or 12 Smile


Ok well I'll have 8 to test !!!!
I'll speak to him tomorrow Mei Thumbs up
Posted 20th May 2015 at 18:22
turboblack

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Post #19
After see that pics what i'll can change to get better situation?

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306cab 2.0 16v:
Wossner 12:1
45mm Jenvey
Piper 285H
6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD
406 Brembo
D2 Suspension
E-tech Strut Brace
Emerald K6 Ecu
Posted 22nd May 2015 at 18:03
welshpug!

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Post #20
the manifold

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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 10:31
rallyeash

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Post #21
Think mine are 300mm from head to butterfly

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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 10:54
Day666

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Blimey Mei you got loads of room hope mine has loads like that ?
Posted 23rd May 2015 at 11:14
turboblack

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Post #23
What manifold are best way to go? With this setup the engine runs 194 hp and 204 nm. Full specs here http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=127999

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306cab 2.0 16v:
Wossner 12:1
45mm Jenvey
Piper 285H
6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD
406 Brembo
D2 Suspension
E-tech Strut Brace
Emerald K6 Ecu
Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:21
Day666

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Post #24
turboblack wrote:
What manifold are best way to go? With this setup the engine runs 194 hp and 204 nm. Full specs here http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=127999


I would love 194 ...but I don't have cams & headflowed as you .....I'm hoping to get more Torque with my 8 injector set up & a great map ?...:seeing as I've not stripped & taken much weight off my car ..that would help loads for track days Thumbs up
In 8 months time hopefully I'll have a 2.1-2.2 Sandy Brown engine to fit all my stuff now !!!!!

Welshpugs proven & others that Satchell inlets are bloody hard to beat if set up correct ?
That's what Mei has & I've copied him Whistle
Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:48
welshpug!

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Post #25
my head is standard.

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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:48

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