Post #76
106lad wrote:
Theyre not Ferrari brakes though, theyre brembos with stickers 
No they are ferrari calipers
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 pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
No they are ferrari calipers |
 Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 08:04
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #77
pugheaven wrote: 106lad wrote: Theyre not Ferrari brakes though, theyre brembos with stickers No they are ferrari calipers Nothing unique about that caliper. It's an off the shelf Brembo item with Ferrari sprayed onto it. Besides, this info from the Alfa boys says the GT caliper used on the 406 is better anyway (larger pistons and the same pad shape). ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 09:20
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #78
i know what you are saying but they are from a ferrari not just 406 brembos with a sticker, they are radial mounted aswell. |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 20:55
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nozy306
Newbie  Location: norwey Registered: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 18 Status: Offline |
Post #79
I have some Alcon brakes from a 206 cup. is someone who has used such on 306?must find the right brake disk, so was wondering if there was one here who knows it, or whether it is possible http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/7723/img0994st.jpg ________________________________________ Peugeot 306 style 1.4 xsi(106) (1996) bruksbilpeugeot 306 S16 (1995)to be SC high boost track/road car: http://www.peugeot-sport-club.no/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20916 Peugeot 306 Gti-6(2000): http://www.peugeot-sport-club.no/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20918 peugeot 306 Gti-6(1997)to be SC low boost http://www.peugeot-sport-club.no/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20917 Peugeot 306 Gti-6 (2000) citroen berlingo 2010 long: work car |
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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 17:14
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ash
Six Addict  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 7,520 Status: Offline |
Post #80
Are they Lug Mounted and bolt directly to the 306 hub? I suspect you will need to find the adapter or get one made and then use the exact size, thickness and offset disc/rotor as the206 cup. What size is that? |
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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 20:14
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nozy306
Newbie Location: norwey Registered: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 18 Status: Offline |
Post #81
mounted directly on the hub. I can not put on the plate adapters. is not approved in Norway without TUF pappir. but this I do not know much about: (  ________________________________________ Peugeot 306 style 1.4 xsi(106) (1996) bruksbilpeugeot 306 S16 (1995)to be SC high boost track/road car: http://www.peugeot-sport-club.no/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20916 Peugeot 306 Gti-6(2000): http://www.peugeot-sport-club.no/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20918 peugeot 306 Gti-6(1997)to be SC low boost http://www.peugeot-sport-club.no/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20917 Peugeot 306 Gti-6 (2000) citroen berlingo 2010 long: work car |
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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 21:31
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daicarvideoguy
Newbie  Location: Marcham Registered: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 43 Status: Offline |
Post #82
Talking about 4 Pot'sI have seen a set of Silver Brembro's from a fiat 20valve turbo forsale on eBay, would I be right in thinking that with a set of 288 xantia disks they will fit under 15inch cyclones? But I might have squel issues? ________________________________________ Xbox Live: DaicarvideoGuy, Forza 4 |
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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 09:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #83
you'd need an adapter from caliper to peugeot hub.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 09:49
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daicarvideoguy
Newbie Location: Marcham Registered: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 43 Status: Offline |
Post #84
Would I need the adapter if I went with 406 Brembro's ? Can I get the adapters on here?________________________________________ Xbox Live: DaicarvideoGuy, Forza 4 |
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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 09:56
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #85
406 ones fit straight on with the 288 discs.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 10:15
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #86
Anyone know why nico didn't use 310mm like the ones that come with a 807 v6?________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 11:05
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #87
Do those discs fit directly with the Citroen Sport caliper adaptors?________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 13:33
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #88
I dunno , I guess the space between the caliper and hub could be different. I've lost the info on the c2r2 now... used to have it bookmarked bit I suppose even that could be spaced differently ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 14:47
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #89
Just something worth noting, the setup I just bought has 406 brembo's and 285mm 206gti180 discs. They look to be standard discs as not drilled or grooved or anything and they hardly seem to squeal at all only under very light braking from one side.However personally I think they should not be used with the brembo's as their thickness is only 26mm which is the min thickness for the standard 305mm discs. Therefore once the 26mm discs get warn you run the risk of popping a piston out of the caliper :/. Will be getting (288x28) discs in a week or so when I get paid. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 29th Aug 2012 at 10:23
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #90
armzs16 wrote: Just something worth noting, the setup I just bought has 406 brembo's and 285mm 206gti180 discs. They look to be standard discs as not drilled or grooved or anything and they hardly seem to squeal at all only under very light braking from one side. However personally I think they should not be used with the brembo's as their thickness is only 26mm which is the min thickness for the standard 305mm discs. Therefore once the 26mm discs get warn you run the risk of popping a piston out of the caliper :/. Will be getting (288x28) discs in a week or so when I get paid. I can't see that TBH,pretty sure they would not have made the pistons that easy to pop out  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 29th Aug 2012 at 18:27
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #91
I meant once the 26mm discs wear down as well as the pads. Seen it a few times on cars with very lipped front discs and warn pads where the piston has leaked fluid everywhere as the piston has moved out past it's seal as the brakes are so warn. This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously.The 26mm ones on mine are nearly new so not a problem for now but going 28 soon.________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 11:05
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staley_306
Regular Location: Leicester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 238 Status: Offline |
Post #92
pugheaven wrote: i know what you are saying but they are from a ferrari not just 406 brembos with a sticker, they are radial mounted aswell. They are just of the self brembos. Same with porsche, lambo, audi etc.. |
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Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 11:27
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #93
armzs16 wrote: I meant once the 26mm discs wear down as well as the pads. Seen it a few times on cars with very lipped front discs and warn pads where the piston has leaked fluid everywhere as the piston has moved out past it's seal as the brakes are so warn. This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously.The 26mm ones on mine are nearly new so not a problem for now but going 28 soon. I once ran the rear shoes down so far in a Toyota thy it popped the pistons out of the brake cylinder inside the drum, s**t my pants moment. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 17:28
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #94
armzs16 wrote: This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously.. Strength is the reason for min disc thickness recomendations I've seen cars where the whole friction part of pads has gone and the pistons are still nowhere near popping out  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 31st Aug 2012 at 19:43
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #95
daicarvideoguy wrote: Talking about 4 Pot's I have seen a set of Silver Brembro's from a fiat 20valve turbo forsale on eBay, would I be right in thinking that with a set of 288 xantia disks they will fit under 15inch cyclones? But I might have squel issues? We have one at work, but the standard wheels are 16's ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2012 at 14:21
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,637 Status: Offline |
Post #96
1. Compbrake B4 4 Pots with 280x26 Rotors to fit 15" (CompBrake) - 2 piece discs2. Willwood 4 Pots with 283x22 GTI6 Discs 15" (welly) 3. 406 V6 Brembo with GTI180 285x26 Discs 15" (ash) 4. 406 V6 Brembo with Xantia 288x28 Discs 15" (?) 5. AP BTCC 4 Pots with 295x26 Rotors 15" (VLR) - 2 piece discs 6. AP CP5200 4 Pots with 310x28 Rotors 15" (Prism7guy) - 2 piece discs 7. Fiat/Alfa Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (tomtomtom) 8. AP 4 Pots with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (rallyestyle) 9. Brembo GT 4 pot with 406 305mm disc 16" 10. Clio 197 Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16"(rich_w) 11. Clio 197 Brembos with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash) - 2 piece discs 12. 406 V6 Brembo with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash) - 2 piece discs 13. Hi Spec Billet 4 calipers on 325mm, 2 piece discs. (lee gti6) 14. GSR Inv. 4-pots with 330x26mm scolloped rotors. (PhillipM) - 3 piece discs 15. 406 V6 Brembos with 330x28 Rotors 17" (ash) - 2 piece discs 16. Compbrake Pro7 Brembos with 330x32 Rotors 17" (ash) - 2 piece discs 17. 406 V6 Brembo's with (2 piece disc, red bells..) 330x28 rotor's 17" (aknight) 18. AP CP6600 4 pot calipers and two piece AP 330x28 discs - plenty of room inside 7x17 2120 speedlines (martinj) 18. Ex SubaruWRC 4 PotAlcon's with 28mm by 300mm rotors which just sqeeze under 15's 19. Hi-spec 4 pots billet conversion with 300mm bell and rotor. Will only go under 16" wheels this way. However if you run a different Caliper bracket and 285mm discs with 10mm spacers you can get them under clones Wink 6-pots: 1. KAD 6pots with 285x28 discs 15" (Binka & Gti6boy) - 1 piece 2.)Tarox 6-pots 310mm Belled discs, 17" TSW's (Steve_h gti6,) - 2 piece discs. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #97
Bow down to your king330x32mm from 407 V6 with some huge ass calipers   tiny 4 pots, lol  |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 19:20
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #98
ash wrote: So far this club has fitted the following 4 pot kits in order of disc size (originator shown): 1. Compbrake B4 4 Pots with 280x26 Rotors to fit 15" (CompBrake) 2. Willwood 4 Pots with 283x22 GTI6 Discs 15" (welly) 3. 406 V6 Brembo with GTI180 285x26 Discs 15" (ash) 4. 406 V6 Brembo with Xantia 288x28 Discs 15" (Welly) 5. AP BTCC 4 Pots with 295x26 Rotors 15" (VLR) 6. Fiat/Alfa Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (tomtomtom) 7. AP 4 Pots with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16" (rallyestyle) 8. Clio 197 Brembos with 305x28 406 V6 Discs 16"(rich_w) 9. Clio 197 Brembos with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash) 10. 406 V6 Brembo with 310x28 Rotors 16" (ash) 11. 406 V6 Brembos with 330x28 Rotors 17" (ash) 12. Compbrake Pro7 Brembos with 330x32 Rotors 17" (ash) 13. 406 V6 Brembos with 330x28 Rotors 17'' (ash). If you know any more proven conversions, please feel free to add them... |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 14:30
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #99
Takedown wrote: Bow down to your king 330x32mm from 407 V6 with some huge ass calipers tiny 4 pots, lol Winning, that cars a beast :cool ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 15:28
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #100
buzzbrightyear wrote: armzs16 wrote: I meant once the 26mm discs wear down as well as the pads. Seen it a few times on cars with very lipped front discs and warn pads where the piston has leaked fluid everywhere as the piston has moved out past it's seal as the brakes are so warn. This is the point in a min disc thickness from the manufacturer as well as disc strength obviously.The 26mm ones on mine are nearly new so not a problem for now but going 28 soon. I once ran the rear shoes down so far in a Toyota thy it popped the pistons out of the brake cylinder inside the drum, s**t my pants moment. Actually thinking back, this happened because I was too lazy to adjust the rear brakes, the gap between the show and drum was so big that it popped the piston out the cylinder ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 18:38
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