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Day666

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Post #951
demondriverdan wrote:
I'm sure I read somewhere that the knuckle works with a 306 one? Maybe it was a 205


Yes 205 Dan Thumbs down
Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 19:08
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Post #952
Balls. I have a couple of spare bottom bits of the column so will see if someone can make them work together

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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 19:17
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Post #953
Well managed to get a absolute bargain ....

£20 for a new unused Vauxhall Momo Steering boss off racer /Harry at Combe Trackday Thumbs up
Fits my Corsa Electric Powersteering spot on ...

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Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 15:14
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Post #954
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My 106 hydraulic pump is still providing resistance and feedback. Bit I run a lot of castor on the front. I would assume you will gain more feedback and resistance of you had added castor also on the corsa column.


Problem with the column is the feedback gets filtered out through the big increase in friction in the UJ's and the rack/pinion itself, as they get loaded far higher than they do in a hydraulic setup

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Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 15:27
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Post #955
I'm thinking of getting a removable wheel boss if I change to the Corsa column, been wanting one for a while anyway

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Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 15:58
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Post #956
Stupid question but Is it really worth all the hassle involved? What's so terrible about the standard PAS setup on a 306? Or is it all on aid of allowing the engine to rev a little bit more freely or weight saving etc....

Don't really get it tbh still got standard PAS online just relocated to the sump. With decent suspension and roller wishbone bushes I have plenty of feedback feels like a go-cart and the pump is original so doesn't work overly well so steering isn't stupid light either.

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Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 17:00
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Post #957
I generally like having no PAS but when it's near the end of a stint I get pretty exhausted so could do with a bit of help. Likewise it'll make driving the car around the paddock far easier

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Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 17:20
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Post #958
Phil ..I'm not 100% convinced yet it will do what I want ?....I'm going to fit it & try it Smile

Dan ....it's the same Momo / Boss setup as I have now ..with a lifeline Quick release steering wheel ...the only difference is this fits a Vauxhall colum & my other is Peougeot Thumbs up

Pete ...The standard PAS pulls Power & doesn't like going to 9000 rpm m8 it gets Red hot at times ....plus more room under my bonnet with both items gone ....if its Rubbish it comes off LOL
Also Pete I did have my Standard PAS on Rich W bottom sump mount Thumbs up
Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 17:54
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Post #959
intersted to see how you get on. Should have mine in a week or so
Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 17:49
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Post #960
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intersted to see how you get on. Should have mine in a week or so


Mike...Yours maybe fitted before mine then Thumbs up
Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 17:56
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Post #961
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Phil ..I'm not 100% convinced yet it will do what I want ?....I'm going to fit it & try it Smile


I can't say I'm keen on them myself, both in terms of feel and the wear and tear they cause the rack and UJ's when they're in something heavier than a sardine can and on serious tyres and geometery - everyone in the rallying side jumped on them because they're cheap and easy to fit and extolled them as the best thing since sliced bread - and then found out that the hard way. That's why I still run a hydraulic setup on the buggy.

But, try it and see - everyone's setup is different.

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Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 19:25
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Post #962
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intersted to see how you get on. Should have mine in a week or so


What system are you going for?

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Posted 4th Aug 2016 at 22:42
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Post #963
Same electric column just prebuilt ready to bolt on and wire in
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 07:03
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Post #964
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Same electric column just prebuilt ready to bolt on and wire in


Prebuilt ?....thought they came off the car prebuilt ?
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 13:06
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Post #965
Im under the impression they need a joint removing and welding.

Ive actually got both options as ive got a complete corsa column in the garage and also looking to buy one so maybe overthinking the one i have at present so will offer it up and see lol
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 13:26
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Post #966
blandy wrote:
Im under the impression they need a joint removing and welding.

Ive actually got both options as ive got a complete corsa column in the garage and also looking to buy one so maybe overthinking the one i have at present so will offer it up and see lol


Was told ...fitting a Corsa B one is straightforward to a 205 ?
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 13:36
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Post #967
same as any other conversion, they need the lower uj welding to the corsa output shaft and suitable brackets attaching to the motor/column.

306-205 wont look much different, you can use a shortened 306 lower column on a 205!

got a 2.4 turn zx rack on my 205, straight on with a 205 column, no pas yet, feels fine with a bit more camber with the 309 arms, just michelin road tyres.

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Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 13:46
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Post #968
Fingers Crossed Thumbs up
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 15:12
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Post #969
welshpug! wrote:
same as any other conversion, they need the lower uj welding to the corsa output shaft and suitable brackets attaching to the motor/column.

306-205 wont look much different, you can use a shortened 306 lower column on a 205!

got a 2.4 turn zx rack on my 205, straight on with a 205 column, no pas yet, feels fine with a bit more camber with the 309 arms, just michelin road tyres.


Thanks thats what i thought.

mine is heavy, really heavy running -2deg camber and a 3j diff, again its ok when at speed but on tight turns you can really feel it.

Kinda in the same position as Damien if it doesnt work or isnt right itll come off but i have no option bar elec with the sump and rack i have
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 16:33
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Post #970
Wouldn't it work out cheaper and a lot lighter to just get bigger arms ?

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Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 19:45
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Post #971
Just fit one of these LOL

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Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 19:52
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Post #972
If it would sort it ...I'd fit a Wheel that big LOL

Blimey my arms are big enough now without weights or steroids Whistle

It's after time you feel it Chris ...no PAS is great to drive as you feel the road through the steering wheel amazing Thumbs up

Your Like me Mike ...we arnt weak skinny Blokes ...I'm running 2.5 Camber with a 2.4 rack & 3j with race preloads & 205 DZO3gs which are like slicks but road legal ....total bas**rd at slow speed & almost unusable on the road with no PAS ...it beat the hell out of me at Prescott Thumbs down ...

My Mechanic m8 Martin can't drive it as it is now ...so I've got to do something ASAP as he helps me loads Thumbs up
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 20:17
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Post #973
narrower tyres with lots of air Razz
Posted 5th Aug 2016 at 20:05
Day666

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Post #974
cully wrote:
narrower tyres with lots of air Razz


Dam ....why did I think of that LOL
Posted 6th Aug 2016 at 06:13
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Post #975
Just man the f**k up grow a pair and use the muscles in your arms - bunch of pussies !!!!!!

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Posted 6th Aug 2016 at 07:05

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