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 Mossy1985
Senior User  Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi guys, I'm going to be installing an engine and gearbox, rear axle and suspension and subframe and steering rack etc pretty soon. I'm looking for any advice or tips that people could offer perhaps from past experiences?? Things like is it possible to lift the engine and gearbox in together? Or does the car need lowering over the top for that? Any tips at all would be appreciatedCheers |
 Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 18:28
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Engine and box can go in together from the top, as long as your using a decent crane. Rear beam is easy enough with an assistant... Probs best jacking it into position with two jacks, can't comment on the subframe, it's the only thing on my car I've never removed! ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 18:34
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Mossy1985
Senior User Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
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Cheers Jeffery, it's me and my mate doing it all so we should be able to manage |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 18:36
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,639 Status: Offline |
Post #4
I found it helped removing the bonnet when fitting an engine with the 'box already bolted to it, i had already removed most of the front end (bumper, radiator etc).I've removed and replaced a rear beam on my own, would be much easier with a helper as jeffers said. Subframes are easy enough, just watch out for the mounting bolts being corroded in place and shearing them off. I think it was Owain that had issues with the upper front two, it should be in his project thread if you want to see what i mean. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 18:38
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #5
get a crane to lift the engine and box it is feckin heavy you will break your back or kill your friend by dropping it on him if you try it without |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 19:15
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Mossy1985
Senior User Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Cheers guys, I've got a crane from work which should be man enough. Any tips on bleeding cooling system as no doubt it will be a pig being french? |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 19:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #7
They're one of the easiest ones I've ever done.open all bleed points, fill up till coolant trickles from each one and close as that happens, fire up with the cap off and top up if needed. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 20:03
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Mossy1985
Senior User Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
Post #8
welshpug! wrote: They're one of the easiest ones I've ever done. open all bleed points, fill up till coolant trickles from each one and close as that happens, fire up with the cap off and top up if needed. Great stuff cheers Mei |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 20:12
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Disco_Stu
Regular  Location: County Durham Registered: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 243 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Here are the links to the FAQ guides:Engine Coolant Load more useful links on the FAQ Page ________________________________________ Peugeot 306 Gti-6 Track car (soon to be supercharged)Project page Blog |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 21:00
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Easy to fit engine and box as one with an engine crane - just remove the entire front end, slam panel, bumper, rad etc and it swings straight in.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 12th Feb 2015 at 21:27
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #11
welshpug! wrote: They're one of the easiest ones I've ever done. open all bleed points, fill up till coolant trickles from each one and close as that happens, fire up with the cap off and top up if needed. The filling need to be done from higher level of the highest bleeding point.  ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 07:38
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Mossy1985
Senior User Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
Post #12
oldbrownshoe wrote: welshpug! wrote: They're one of the easiest ones I've ever done. open all bleed points, fill up till coolant trickles from each one and close as that happens, fire up with the cap off and top up if needed. The filling need to be done from higher level of the highest bleeding point. How is that possible? Won't the highest point be the matrix? |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 07:38
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Use header tank or park the car in a uphillIts crucial to use the o-ring seal as in the photo, otherwise the air will enter. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 07:44
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Mossy1985
Senior User Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I will get the front end jacked up high enough then cheers |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 07:42
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Don't backflip the car in attempts to get high enough,it's better to source some plastic bottle and rubber o-ring as shown above, if it's not tight seal you can warp also a teflon band. underestimating this procedure could easily leads to head repair. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 08:19
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Wtf open sll bleed points fill header tank and close bleed points when coolant has a constant flow. Top up as necessary________________________________________ |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 10:40
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Mossy1985
Senior User Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
Post #17
fatlapit wrote: Wtf open sll bleed points fill header tank and close bleed points when coolant has a constant flow. Top up as necessary Will follow this as it makes sense and sounds simple job done |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 10:45
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MisterGTR
Senior User  Location: Glasgow Registered: 05 Aug 2014 Posts: 675 Status: Offline |
Post #18
I just taped an old 5 litre bottle on as a header tanker. Leaked a wee bit, but ran the engine for 20mins (until the fans kicked in) and kept it topped up and the excess came out the wee tube.The FAQs on here are good. I think i would have been facing downhill but i've check the level since and it's fine and temps are 80s at most. Saying that it had been pretty cold. ________________________________________ Turned 40 and in true cliched fashion buying one of the cars of my teenage dreams! |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 13:25
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
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MisterGTR wrote: I just taped an old 5 litre bottle on as a header tanker. Leaked a wee bit, but ran the engine for 20mins (until the fans kicked in) and kept it topped up and the excess came out the wee tube. The FAQs on here are good. I think i would have been facing downhill but i've check the level since and it's fine and temps are 80s at most. Saying that it had been pretty cold. That's the whole point, if it leaked than air got inside and could be trapped, the end result of this process is air free closed cooling system 100% coolant, no bubble, nothing, nada. i used to neglect the seal of the gap between the bottle & the header tanker and ended with bubble. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 14:23
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Puggitt
Regular Location: New Zealand Registered: 07 May 2012 Posts: 293 Status: Offline |
Post #20
You'll never have a complete are free system due to the valves in the rad cap. Fill it up as much as you can with all the bleed points open, close them as they start oozing or leaking, run the car keep topping up as it get the remaining air out and just check the matrix bleed point (before it gets too hot) after that it'll be fine to drive around and in doing so will bleed out any remaining air. Re check in a week.Or get a fulcrom vacuum coolant bleeding kit and suck out all the air and replace it with coolant, turn on, walk away for ten minutes, put suction lead in coolant open tap leave ten minutes, come back put rad cap on, job jobbed. Recheck in a week  |
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Posted 13th Feb 2015 at 20:43
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MisterGTR
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 05 Aug 2014 Posts: 675 Status: Offline |
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oldbrownshoe wrote: MisterGTR wrote: I just taped an old 5 litre bottle on as a header tanker. Leaked a wee bit, but ran the engine for 20mins (until the fans kicked in) and kept it topped up and the excess came out the wee tube. The FAQs on here are good. I think i would have been facing downhill but i've check the level since and it's fine and temps are 80s at most. Saying that it had been pretty cold. That's the whole point, if it leaked than air got inside and could be trapped, the end result of this process is air free closed cooling system 100% coolant, no bubble, nothing, nada. i used to neglect the seal of the gap between the bottle & the header tanker and ended with bubble. I was saying some of the coolant mix leaked out as it was going in. Drunk pendant - I'd like to see how you removed all the air from your coolant (hopefully not 100% but mixed) at 1 atmosphere. But anyway...the point of the header tank while the engine/fans are running is to get rid of the bubbles? ________________________________________ Turned 40 and in true cliched fashion buying one of the cars of my teenage dreams! |
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Posted 14th Feb 2015 at 01:08
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #22
MisterGTR wrote: 1)I was saying some of the coolant mix leaked out as it was going in. 2) Drunk pendant - I'd like to see how you removed all the air from your coolant (hopefully not 100% but mixed) at 1 atmosphere. 3) But anyway...the point of the header tank while the engine/fans are running is to get rid of the bubbles? 1) I misunderstood you. 2) as long as the coolant temp is right after bleeding there is no air trapped in there, that's the purpose this procedure serves. 3 the point is to remove air traps, air bubble rise to the highest point, and if this point is higher than the radiator cap, you need to the column of liquid in the funnel to be in a higher level. some useful links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpXgAJ1gjU http://www.allpar.com/fix/radiator-purge.html http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200204/200204.htm ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 14th Feb 2015 at 10:22
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