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 Eddleston
Regular  Location: Leatherhead Registered: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 329 Status: Offline |
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Ok, I've done 35nm Then went round on 70nm Now, for 160degrees do I just need a f**k-off extention bar? Seemed pretty tight at 70... Sorry to keep asking but I'm learning and don't like doing the same job twice. ________________________________________ the zombie apocalypse started long ago, only no-one realised most can talk and drive |
 Posted 25th Oct 2014 at 17:49
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #2
u got an angle guage??________________________________________ |
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Posted 25th Oct 2014 at 18:05
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #3
tbh id just 180 it________________________________________ |
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Posted 25th Oct 2014 at 18:05
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Yeah you need a angle gauge. Got one over here if you want to come and borrow it. I angled mine and had to use a 2ft breaker bar to do so. My first one i did i was worried i would snap the bas**rd but they won't! Just make sure you get the washers in there as well and makes life a tiny bit easier if you put a bit of grease on the washer. |
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Posted 25th Oct 2014 at 18:07
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Eddleston
Regular Location: Leatherhead Registered: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 329 Status: Offline |
Post #5
That's on hold till tomorrow then lol ________________________________________ the zombie apocalypse started long ago, only no-one realised most can talk and drive |
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Posted 25th Oct 2014 at 18:26
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #6
print one off from google  |
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Posted 25th Oct 2014 at 19:46
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Eddleston
Regular Location: Leatherhead Registered: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 329 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Well it turns out its actually really difficult to turn the bar at all when you've put your back out.  . Is it supposed to be unbelievable f**king tight even from the first few degrees? ________________________________________ the zombie apocalypse started long ago, only no-one realised most can talk and drive |
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Posted 26th Oct 2014 at 14:32
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barrym
Senior User  Location: Westcliff-on-sea Registered: 26 Jun 2014 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #8
I wouldn't have thought so. 70Nm is not a lot of torque. Are you using new head bolts? ________________________________________ China D Turbo HDi daily chargerBlack Rallye occassional toy |
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Posted 26th Oct 2014 at 15:45
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #9
barrym wrote: I wouldn't have thought so. 70Nm is not a lot of torque. Are you using new head bolts? That. Chances are if you are using the old bolts, they are at or past their maximum stretch tolerance. NEED a good set of bolts! |
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Posted 26th Oct 2014 at 16:22
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Eddleston
Regular Location: Leatherhead Registered: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 329 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Yep, got new bolts in________________________________________ the zombie apocalypse started long ago, only no-one realised most can talk and drive |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 00:53
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #11
When I did my HG I could only get about 90 degrees with a breaker bar before it wouldn't move any more. That was using new bolts.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 08:58
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
itll be gojng again soon then :p________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 09:31
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I've got no idea how you're supposed to make it tighter. I was using a 1.3m breaker and couldn't get it to move any further!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 10:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #14
sure you did 70 Nm and not 70 Lbft?even I can manage the 160 degrees, and I'm a skinny bas**rd  iirc the 8v goes to 300! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 10:57
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
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Did you put some oil on the back of the bolt heads? Something not right there if you can't tighten them, I did mine on an engine stand which is a dam sight harder than with the engine in the car....________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 11:03
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Tbh I can't remember, it was a few months ago. Engine seems ok at the moment so I'll run it until I replace it or it dies!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 11:42
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I had no issues with tightening, but didn't realise until after that I should have had washers on. The bolts I removed didn't and the new bolts I bought didn't either________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 13:07
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #18
If you don't have the spacer under the one nearest the master cylinder you'll bang a hole in the back of the block!________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 13:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #19
rallyeash wrote: If you don't have the spacer under the one nearest the master cylinder you'll bang a hole in the back of the block! not on an iron block  :________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 13:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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daver6 wrote: I had no issues with tightening, but didn't realise until after that I should have had washers on. The bolts I removed didn't and the new bolts I bought didn't either probably still in the head, hopefully.... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 13:46
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Eddleston
Regular Location: Leatherhead Registered: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 329 Status: Offline |
Post #21
I counted all the washers and they're all present and correct. I'll take all the bolts out and try again then... When my back fixes itself. ________________________________________ the zombie apocalypse started long ago, only no-one realised most can talk and drive |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 15:22
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Eddleston
Regular Location: Leatherhead Registered: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 329 Status: Offline |
Post #22
I counted all the washers and they're all present and correct. I'll take all the bolts out and try again then... When my back fixes itself. ________________________________________ the zombie apocalypse started long ago, only no-one realised most can talk and drive |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 15:24
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barrym
Senior User Location: Westcliff-on-sea Registered: 26 Jun 2014 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Is it possible to hydraulic lock the bolts on these?________________________________________ China D Turbo HDi daily chargerBlack Rallye occassional toy |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 17:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #24
quire probably, they're blind holes unlike the alloy block________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 20:56
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Definitely possible, I know someone who ripped the threads out by hydraulic locking it. He'd got oil in the bolt hole...________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 27th Oct 2014 at 21:05
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