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| Author | Subject: Track day tyre options - what will fit? |
 Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro  Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
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Hi gentsBack from a day at Bedford, it was epic but the s**tty 195/45/16 Toyo Proxe 4's completely died....(loads of tead but zero grip) So I'm looking at my options, will a 195/50/16 still fit? (toyo 888's) or could I even push up to a 205/45/16 and then run Yokohamas? I'm struggling with options so any suggestions would be great, Cheers Chris |
 Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 11:33
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Road tyres just don't have the stiffness in the tyre walls, buy some R888's they're a decent option to begin with.... The problem these days is the cost.....________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 12:42
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lj_6
Regular  Location: Bristol Registered: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 246 Status: Offline |
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As above, the toyo proxies are great for the road but on track they won't handle it. Are you able to step down to 15's? As the cost of r888's come down a lot then. If not stick with the 16's and try the r888's or another option try the Nanking ns2r in 120 tread wear, great things being said about them. Have just got myself a set for the astra. Worth a try! ________________________________________ Astra burg #365 Garrett Power'99 bodied 6 track project |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 13:29
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
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Federal 595 RSRs are great for a beginner track tyre. They're not as quick as R888s but are a lot cheaper and if you ruin them, it's less of a fuss.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 14:07
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Thanks guys, I had so little grip it was embarrassing!I can't go down in size due to brakes but r888's look pretty decent, are they dry weather only? Are they road legal?! Cheers C |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 14:53
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #6
lj_6 wrote: As above, the toyo proxies are great for the road but on track they won't handle it. Are you able to step down to 15's? As the cost of r888's come down a lot then. If not stick with the 16's and try the r888's or another option try the Nanking ns2r in 120 tread wear, great things being said about them. Have just got myself a set for the astra. Worth a try! Let me know about the nankangs, I've heard good things too |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 14:54
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #7
R888's are a road legal tyre.________________________________________  |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 15:04
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
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Ok great thanks, will 50 profile fit? |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 15:18
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #9
They should fit, depends on the shocks you run. I have a 9" (IIRC) spring which are run all the way down means that it fouls on the shock adjuster ring. There is no issue with the rear unless you have a cambered beam ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 15:52
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I've bought a set of Federal 595 on DemonDan's recommendation, so I'll wait and see how they fair up. R888 and A048's are so expensive that I wouldn't bother running them on the road, buy another set of wheels and chuck the R888 for the sticky stuff I ran through a set of front R888's in less than 1k of road and track use. I nearly cried ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 15:55
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ash j
Regular  Location: Fareham Registered: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 415 Status: Offline |
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Try some AD08R tyres from Yokohama.Superb on track and are also very good on the road (road legal), quite stiff tyrewalls. Not cheap from memory when I last bought them, but I wouldn't consider any other tyres after having run these. Haven't tried R888s mind. |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 16:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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the Yokos are cheaper than the R888, should get a lot more than 1000 miles from an R888 unless its purely track work and you didn't check and adjust tyre pressures to suit.A friend of mine running a V6 205 got about 4k miles out of some part worn R888's and they're still legal. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 16:58
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Ok excellent thanks guys, the car is running Bilstein B8's with eibach Springs, does that mean I should stick with 195/50 or could I push it to a 205/45?I've noticed the rear has marks on the liners where clearly tyres have rubbed on the inside!? How would I be able to tell if my beam is standard or not? (It's yellow with red arb's from what I can see...) From searches on here previously it's had lightweight flywheels (that smashed) as well as lightweight aux pulley so I have no idea what might or might not have been done! |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 18:25
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Well do the back wheels look at an angle towards the car, with one more of an angle than anotherIt shouldn't be, unless the beam was rebuilt with camber machined into them, but you would have equal camber on each side. If the beam hasn't been rebuilt then it will be shagged by now so probably worth rebuilding especially since you are doing track days. You'll have no issue running 205's on the front ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 18:35
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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You can put some verniers (or even a spanner) around a torsion bars and see what size they are.The ARB is the single bar inside. You'll only be able to measure that by pulling a flag off and measuring. Not a tricky job at all. Get a head bolt or ford wheel bolt (or any bolt with the correct thread). The rubbing on liners is possibly due to a/the beam being knackered and having camber. Unless it's had incorrectly sized wheels on at some point or someone's not attached the liners correctly. If suggest having a good look around and seeing if yours is a goodun. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 18:39
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
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jamiek_uk2000 wrote: I've bought a set of Federal 595 on DemonDan's recommendation, so I'll wait and see how they fair up. R888 and A048's are so expensive that I wouldn't bother running them on the road, buy another set of wheels and chuck the R888 for the sticky stuff I ran through a set of front R888's in less than 1k of road and track use. I nearly cried I was just looking at Rsr's from Federal, nice tyres, good reviews etc but 205 narrowest fitment, will that not rub like a b**ch on 16's? |
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Posted 12th Oct 2014 at 22:33
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Nope, they fit fine on PR 1.2s with no rubbing (I'm on coilies and no plastic arches though)The Dunlops I run are wider and there was some rubbing there I had to deal with. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 12th Oct 2014 at 23:03
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Great thanks Dan |
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Posted 13th Oct 2014 at 07:56
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
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As above, I run my coilovers on the bottom of the thread (GAZ GHZ) with 16" wheels and it's close but I have about a fingers width of space. ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 13th Oct 2014 at 17:41
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Well I've found the federals for £75 a corner fitted locally so I'm giving them a go on a 205/45/16, I just hope they don't rub! |
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Posted 27th Dec 2014 at 23:17
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #21
AD08R p**s on 888s. Just superb tyres for everyday and track use. Can't say enough good stuff.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 28th Dec 2014 at 21:28
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #22
ill say again use rally tarmac tyres they are better than any trackday tyres or use federal fz201.________________________________________ |
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Posted 28th Dec 2014 at 22:56
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #23
adam b wrote: AD08R p**s on 888s. Just superb tyres for everyday and track use. Can't say enough good stuff. Whilst id love either of those I just can't justify twice the price of the 595 rsr's! |
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Posted 28th Dec 2014 at 23:13
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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also pointless unless you have rally or race car suspension.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Dec 2014 at 06:15
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #25
why its black and round________________________________________ |
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Posted 29th Dec 2014 at 08:22
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