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 jammapic
Senior User  Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Well,That didn't last long. These cars are £&&£?!g horrible with no PAS. Has anyone got a full PAS relocation kit, or electric power steering setup available? This is a feature I really need to re-instate... JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
 Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 10:11
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #2
I never unstood why on earth anyone would want to get rid of it anyway! :p ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 10:27
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Yeah i drove mine less than a mile yesterday before deciding todays job would be to fit my EPAS.I picked up my pump from the local breakers for £20. Will need to extend the low pressure hose (although this is very cheap) and may have to have the high pressure hose modified depending on where your fitting it. Mine is going down roughly where the air con compressor was and Pirtek have quoted me £5 to cut the original metal pipe from the high pressure hose and crimp on the one that i got with the pump. |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 10:47
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Ah, cool. I'll have a look at that Niall... It's no good, is it?!  ERROR.JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 11:17
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Its a better feel when driving with no PAS, people want the feel of a 205 from the steering then realise they are too much of a pussy  ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 11:32
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Much better, but it is SO heavy.. Heavier than any 205 I've ever driven.________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 11:35
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Did you change the top mounts as well as remove the p/ s??the top mounts are different on none p/s ones, makes then run different caster, with the p/s top mounts it will be stiff as f**k. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 11:52
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #8
No, I didn't... just left everything the same and ripped the PAS off so I could get an air box on the throttle bodies.How much difference does it actually make though? As it stands at the moment, it's so heavy I'm not sure I could catch a slide if it went... ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 12:59
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Non pas top mounts have less caster so FFS don't change them! ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 13:10
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Wouldn't that make it lighter though? As I see it, the stock PAS top mounts have 3.5* positive caster, and the non-PAS ones have 2*. Less jacking effort surely will make it lighter?Or AllanAllen, are you saying it will drive s**t? JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 13:15
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #11
The way I see it more caster will make it more difficult to turn, at shallow angles like the 306 runs the difference may well be fairly negligible. I've never driven a non pas equipped 306 but I'm guessing they also had slower racks fitted?Re-fit the pas ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 13:25
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #12
It's looking likely that's the way forward... it's f**king horrible - honestly.________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 13:26
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devere
Senior User  Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #13
This isn't having a go at you for taking it off, but I never understand why people can't fit an air box with the steering pump there? I fitted a maxi type air box with the standard pump in place...? Or were you using a dome filter type job?You can always check ebay for the 106 pas pump. Usually plenty of them on there from breakers. |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 13:47
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Have you double checked the top mount bearings are still fine too?If the grease goes dry in them you need to be Popeye with no-PAS, you don't even notice with it as the shuttle valve compensates. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 13:49
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #15
allanallen wrote: The way I see it more caster will make it more difficult to turn, at shallow angles like the 306 runs the difference may well be fairly negligible. I've never driven a non pas equipped 306 but I'm guessing they also had slower racks fitted? Re-fit the pas It makes a bit of difference, the non-PAS models had a 3.9 turn rack, which is nice an light so long as you don't mind the feeling of driving a container ship. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 7th Feb 2014 at 13:52
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