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 jorg
Senior User  Location: Wallasey Registered: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 816 Status: Offline |
Post #76
just spent the weekend mocking my setup under the boot floor will hopefully have it all plumbed in on thursday ________________________________________ 306 2.1 S16 Tarmac Rally CarProject thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=143956 |
 Posted 9th Feb 2014 at 17:54
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #77
Looking forward to seeing this, I think I'm going to get some proper threaded ends welds onto my swirl pot and fuel rail ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 9th Feb 2014 at 17:57
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #78
Get some nice pictures of plumbing it all in, nice to see how other people do it:-) |
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Posted 9th Feb 2014 at 17:58
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #79
pete-gti wrote: Here's a quick picture when I started laying it out, in the week I will make full guide showing all connections etc, need to upload quite few pictures, I had it running earlyer seem fine:-) so well happy  I went with filter before feeding into swirl pot, then from pump into ooriginal fuel filter , |
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Posted 9th Feb 2014 at 18:00
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #80
Nearly made full guide on this once I've got my camera cable back :-) Anyway these are the connections I'm using on the original fuel pump and filter Fit bang on  |
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Posted 16th Feb 2014 at 19:33
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craig903
Regular  Location: whitstable Registered: 08 Jul 2013 Posts: 273 Status: Offline |
Post #81
jorg wrote: just spent the weekend mocking my setup under the boot floor will hopefully have it all plumbed in on thursday can't help but think to my self that only half of the swirl pot is actually used? ________________________________________ 208 GTI OwnerTurbo'd '6 project - work in progress |
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Posted 16th Feb 2014 at 19:47
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #82
I suspect the pickup tube has a 90 degree bend so that it picks up from the bottom.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 16th Feb 2014 at 19:55
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #83
Is that a rich w swirl pot? |
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Posted 16th Feb 2014 at 20:41
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jorg
Senior User Location: Wallasey Registered: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 816 Status: Offline |
Post #84
pete-gti wrote: Is that a rich w swirl pot? the swirl pot i'm using is a rich w one yes  ________________________________________ 306 2.1 S16 Tarmac Rally CarProject thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=143956 |
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Posted 16th Feb 2014 at 21:26
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #85
I've been told the pickup does run to the bottom internally, as I asked the same question when I looked at it  ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 17th Feb 2014 at 02:44
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #86
How much was rich w swirl pot?, I've fitted mine inside car just for the fact I wouldn't of been happy with all that fuel stuff hanging under my car , just me being silly lol, mine was 100 poundTime you got connections , hoses , filter , pump, about 400 just on the new system Where best place to get 4 bar pressure regulator? |
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Posted 17th Feb 2014 at 17:11
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #87
On my swirl pots the pick-up tube goes right to the bottom.It also has a baffle welded onto the pick-up tube - which is pressed out of a circular piece of stainless steel, into a lamp-shade profile. This is used to deflect any bubbles (that may be pumped into the swirl pot via the in-tank pump for example) away from the pick-up location.  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 18th Feb 2014 at 09:49
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #88
pete-gti wrote: How much was rich w swirl pot?, I've fitted mine inside car just for the fact I wouldn't of been happy with all that fuel stuff hanging under my car , just me being silly lol, mine was 100 pound They are made of stainless steel buddy. More chance of something puncturing the fuel tank than getting through one of Rich's swirl pots They are rather beautifully made too, bit of a shame to put it under the car  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 18th Feb 2014 at 10:19
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #89
Where mine is inside I had to go for different type so couldn't get one of rich w onesYea right just in my head would always be thinking hope nothing hits etc, just for my peace on mind I've fitted it inside, its all up and running:-) , guide with good pictures be up soon |
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Posted 18th Feb 2014 at 18:23
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #90
Here are a few pics of my setup :-) I went for : Alloy fuel swirl pot nm-6 inlets and nm-8 outlet Nm-6 hose and short piece of nm-8 hose Fittings Bosch 044 fuel pump Sytec f1 bullet fuel filter  I used these fittings to join the return from the swirl pot back to the tank same fitting used on the feed from the tank The same fitting will join onto the original fuel filter  From the Bosch pump I routed it threw the hole that was used for the spare wheel, then to the original fuel filter   From the original fuel return line I used this connection to join into it then back to the swirl pot   This is how it will look , but I'm going to extend the fuel return line to the swirl pot so I can run t round by the other two hoses  Later on I'll show how I wired the pump up |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2014 at 16:30
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #91
Is that PTFE lined braided? If not it'll smell of fuel________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2014 at 16:20
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #92
No its not, I havnt really noticed a smell badly?, maybe just smell it but nothing really, you really have got to get these connections right other why's it will smell |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2014 at 16:33
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #93
Awesome work but have you used a grommet where it passes through the spare wheel hole?if not I'd suggest using a grommet to stop it rubbing thru over time on the thin bare metal or getting cut in 2 if somebody rear ends the car hard. You may have to drill the hole out bigger to fit a grommet in there looking at it. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2014 at 17:16
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #94
Yea I will use a grommet or something like that:-) |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2014 at 17:35
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #95
Where best place to buy a 4 bar fuel regulator , I dont want buy cheap one on eBay, |
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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 17:49
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #96
pete-gti wrote: No its not, I havnt really noticed a smell badly?, maybe just smell it but nothing really, you really have got to get these connections right other why's it will smell It will smell, the petrol vapour permeates the rubber hose and lets out the petrol smell sooner or later, it's not leaks from the connections you need to worry about. They normally put a disclaimer on the box or in the sales ad, saying not suitable for use inside the cabin if it's the non PTFE stuff. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 19:28
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #97
See how it goes :-) I've seen few setups like this with this type hose in cab, things get to bad I will just have to change it  |
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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 20:35
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #98
Can some one help me with the Bosch part number for the 4 bar fuel regulator? |
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Posted 26th Feb 2014 at 18:35
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #99
 Decided now to go with the Teflon stainless braided fuel hose inside car , if I'm going to it proberly might aswell do propa job, if you going to do it do it right:-) , so Teflon hose and fittings turned up today so will change that over weekend The hose that I did use to start with I'm going to use to replace the original fuel line from rail back to tank , so the whole system will be braided:-) just need to weld some fitting onto the fuel rail connections |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 20:02
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #100
Did you find a 4 bar regulator? I have one if you need it________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 23:34
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