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Post #76

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I'd also like to point out that my current 6 has at least one bent valve or guide (taps...) and goes like stink. Thumbs up

I must have filled the washer bottle up.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 21:22

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Post #77

OK am going to do some simple stuff, change plugs, see what they are like, and filter too, don't know how the chuff you do that as its in the most inaccessible place on any car ever!!

Posted 23rd May 2013 at 21:31

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filter is a doddle, do it from underneath.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 21:34

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Post #79

Yeah pretty simple these pug cars are, which is what makes the good tbh, new cars have so much to be removed before u get to the broken part lol.

Is your clutch slipping at all ?

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 21:57

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Post #80

mechanical_repairs wrote:

adam b wrote:

I'd also like to point out that my current 6 has at least one bent valve or guide (taps...) and goes like stink. Thumbs up

I must have filled the washer bottle up.

LOL

Carl

You know you supplied a recon head for that car don't you...

As you didn't fit it i'll let you off. Alistair thought it was probably during fitting - not being pinned correctly Thumbs up

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 22:04

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Post #81

Clutch isnt slipping at all.

Wil fit a new set of NGK's and a filter anywa, 11 quid from GSF cant go wrong!

Posted 24th May 2013 at 07:58

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Post #82

Will u do a compression test before fitting new plugs while u are there ?

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 08:12

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^^^ worth it as your in that area.

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 09:06

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Post #84

Yes, I am taking all this stuff with me to change when it gets looked at next week I hope. Keep the others as spares if they are OK.

Havent got a comp tester sadly, and its pretty tough to do it on yer own, last time I did one you neede a fair bit of elbow grease to hold the device in the plug hole, but that was on a Mini 2 years ago lol!!

Posted 24th May 2013 at 09:11

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Post #85

Machine mart sell a decent one pretty cheap, easy job to do mate using modern tools. Make sure u open the throttle when turning engine over on each cylinder. You should be looking at around 225 psi or 15 % difference on each one, any more and something has gone. Compressor tool will tell you how and what is at fault by how the reading is going to max etc. Well worth buying a new modern tool that goes in like a spark plug.

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 09:45

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Post #86

Indeed, Halfords fo a cheap gauge, not gonna spend loads on something I only use once, this is not something I want to make a habit of!!

Are 306 plugs 15's?

Posted 24th May 2013 at 09:57

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Post #87

16 mm socket size, trust me they are cheap enough to buy and well worth having one so in future u can use it on other cars to determine what is wrong or sell it on ebay, well worth having one mate.

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 10:01

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Aye, I dont have a Machine Mart anywhere near me sadly, but they sell the Gunson ones and they are a tenner cheaper in Halfords unbelievably so mght be a good idea.

Not sure if I really wanna buy it though!! lol

Posted 24th May 2013 at 10:16

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Post #89

Im sure there are other tests you can do first to rule out things then if no answers come up a compression test is the only way of knowing how healthy the engine is.

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 10:23

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Post #90

When I bought my 6 it had 10 bent valves and slightly out timing and it still just about went off the clock lol. Just because they tap doesn't mean they don't seal.
I've got mine on the rollers next weekend. I know my valve timing is perfect just hope it makes good power!

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 10:42

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Lol well I dont have blowers and stuff so cant really comment!

I just want to find the missing 30, I expect to lose a few on a 90k engine, but not that much.

And we will hopefully find out net week.

To all though, many thansk for all the advice, its been a valuable source of panic these past few days!

Posted 24th May 2013 at 11:02

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many thansk for all the advice, its been a valuable source of panic these past few days!

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 12:11

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These engines lose no power at all if maintained. Mine pulled standard power with no mods on a rolling road with 120k miles on the clock.

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 13:24

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mine was std power on 144k and now it's going into my 205

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mine was std power on 144k and now it's sitting round on my garage floor as i cant find the energy to put it into my 205

EFA

Posted 24th May 2013 at 14:03

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Miles's 286k example made book power.

Adam's several times made over book power, and increased torque with advanced cam, when the HG let go we found the bores to be rather worn, it always burnt oil that one!

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hey i had it out at weekend doing belt waterpump tensioners clutch box etc Razz

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hey i had it out at weekend doing belt waterpump tensioners clutch box etc Razz

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 14:24

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Post #99

For the money a compression tester is about the best value for money tool there is. Look for differences across cylinders rather than the top figure - different tools give you different end results.

You'll know if there is an issue with it. I suspect its not the compression unless the plugs aren't done up tight, but then you should hear that.

I am wondering if its just the timing wasn't picked up right by the rolling road by the way. That can change your graph and figures massively. If you can post it up it would be a good idea Smile

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Posted 24th May 2013 at 14:46

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I will check it all over in a few days when its been looked over, have found a guy near to where I live with a roller, who seems very friendly and keen to help in a not over the top "I want all your money" way

So I think we can hopefully iron out any of the is it this? Is it that? deal.

then move onwards

I will take a snap dude and post of the charts. Good spot

Posted 24th May 2013 at 15:15

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