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yippeekayay

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Post #51

i dont need your address carl I know where you reside..... pm me for my details if you want them.... i refer you to your prize bell end comment.... 18 months ago was a different car to the one you mentioned so thanks for re high lighting another car. There's one key board warrior here.... you made the threat remember.

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 22:12

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beez_neez_gt

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Post #52

How much is a typical rolling session, i feel like one now my cars up to scratch.

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 22:13

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Post #53

Maybe it was running on 3 cylinders during the run?

Wouldnt that affect fuelling though?

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 22:14

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Post #54

Oh It was certainly not running on 3 lol! You would be able to tell straight away.

A session or a power run is usually upwards of 50 quid, and they do 4 or 5 runs to get a stable figure.

Posted 22nd May 2013 at 22:25

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beez_neez_gt

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Post #55

Ok thanks Chunder Thumbs up

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 23:18

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Post #56

3 cylinders? Laugh my ass off

not a f**king chance!

As said before this all got out of hand I'd say its a compression issue. The car has already had HG problems so I wouldn't be surprised and IIRC only 8 of the 16 valves were replaced. The valves only need to be bent a very tiny bit to cause issues.

So little bent infact you wouldn't even see it for looking.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 00:16

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Post #57

mattgti6phase2 wrote:

3 cylinders? Laugh my ass off

In which case surely it would be tapping? Because when the valves are not true they tap when not seating true and square in there seats........

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 05:07

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Post #58

I'd try a leak down test instead of a comp test

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 07:46

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chunder27

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Post #59

Either way its a pile of s**t and really rather boringly familiar when buying used performance cars!

A top end rebuild is likely to cost a fortune, and will just lead me to sell as seen, I really cant be bothered to try and cover up other peoples shoddy work and maintenance. Why people cant just be honest.

I will have wasted hundreds of pounds over what should have been the actual cost of this car which as usual superficially looks great.

Never again.

And that will be the end of my involvement.

Posted 23rd May 2013 at 08:12

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chunder27

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Post #60

I just hope that when I get it checked over next week some faults can be found, or this is going to be a very odd few weeks!

Posted 23rd May 2013 at 08:36

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yippeekayay

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Post #61

I can tell you a full leak down and compression test was done on it when head was rebuilt and all valves were assessed. This might turn out to be rather embaressing if its not a timing issue and is a fuelling issue but I can assure you I spent nearly a grand sorting the head out and it ran perfectly in my ownership afterwards.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 11:56

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Post #62

I am not having a poke at people fella, its just very frustarting to get sold down the river as I am sure you can understand.

My query would be this? You bought the car with a belt done but with a fault yes? You replaced 8 valves, why not the other 8?

This suggests the belt broke? Not the headgasket issue you were talking about, aswell! (jeez what a hellish motor)

So can I take it that in the past few years this car has had a headgasket failure and a cambelt failure!

IN which case I have been well truly done!! And is there any way I could know if you replaced or repaired the head?

Obviously when you sold it on these issues were not apparent, Tom would say the same to me as a seller. But if you could let me know honestly I would appreciate it as it might shed light on whats happened.

Also, why on earth was that huge ally rad fitted?

Posted 23rd May 2013 at 12:26

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Post #63

for the aggro i'd buy the £100 engine in the FS section and slap it in LOL

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 12:28

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Post #64

If some muppet did the hg and got the timing wrong then 8 bent valves is perfectly possible

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 13:09

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Post #65

Precisely!

Dear Lord can I do a system restore and buy that other car I was looking at before this one!!

Bugger

Posted 23rd May 2013 at 13:52

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Post #66

I don't know what radiator is fitted from when it was here but can you take a picture of it, most are nissens radiator's, these are just direct replacements.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 14:26

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welshpug!

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Post #67

and a video would be good.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 14:55

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Post #68

Its a nissen one yes, but the cap is a bit naff so will replace that. But Iw as a litlte concerned to see it was only half full, is this normal? It being such a large rad.

Not going to do anyhting else until stan takes a look next week. Then we can move from there and see what that brings up.

Posted 23rd May 2013 at 15:09

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welshpug!

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Post #69

the reservoir is separate to the rad other than the connection at the bottom, it is no indication of the level of coolant in the rad Thumbs up

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proper level is around half to 2/3s IIRC.

6 has the largest rad of all 306's regardless of a/c or not IIRC, should see a Turbo diesel 605 aircon rad, that is larger Big grin

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 15:38

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Post #70

Nah I am looking into mthe rad, a Nissen caps off on the side of the rad!

Posted 23rd May 2013 at 15:50

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Post #71

Coolant should be level with the top of the rad.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 15:52

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Post #72

That is the reservoir

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 15:52

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welshpug!

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Post #73

chunder27 wrote:

Nah I am looking into mthe rad, a Nissen caps off on the side of the rad!

yes I know the res is attached to the side of the rad, but its connected at the bottom Wink

look at the rear of it, you'll see the level line.

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 16:50

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coskev

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chunder27 wrote:

You replaced 8 valves, why not the other 8?

You only replace the bent ones Thumbs up

Waste of money replacing undamaged ones really!!!! Yes

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 17:15

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Post #75

I'd also like to point out that my current 6 has at least one bent valve or guide (taps...) and goes like stink. Thumbs up

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Posted 23rd May 2013 at 20:47

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