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welshpug!

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Post #226
springs wont help you much if they are made stiff enough to cope with the torque of a 600 bhp motor, its the friction material that's the main issue.

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 19:46
birk

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Post #227
So it's the friction material that denotes slippage? I always thought it was the springs Unsure

I wonder if the rigid setup I've got now will be ok to use and live with.

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 20:21
pete_rallye

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Post #228
The friction material is the 'grippiness' of the clutch. Sintered, organic and semi-metallic I think are the main ones. One lasts longer but doesn't give as much bite, the other bites better but doesn't last as long. The springs are there to take the initial bite away, kinda soften it up a bit I guess, but shouldn't alter the outright torque capacity. The torque capacity is usually governed by the clamping pressure of the main clutch spring (the 'arms' that are pushed in by the release bearing). The AP clutches are all the same design, and use the same drive plates (with different materials), the only difference for the torque capacity is the main clutch spring clamping pressure. The danger of having springs built into drive plates is them giving up, falling to pieces and mashing up the rest of the clutch. I've never seen a twin plate clutch with sprung plates, I'm not sure there's enough space between the plates for springs. With Scoobys and Evo's there has been enough demand for these types of clutch for companies to invest in developing them, unfortunately there's not many Peugeots about with 600hp so no-one has bothered. Might be worth asking Pug1off what they used in their 205.

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 21:54
phillipm

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Post #229
Plenty of off the shelf 7.25" multiplates that will fit the Pug with a little machine work though.

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 22:00
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Post #230
as I mentioned earlier, you need to speak to the likes of Liam doran, ollie o donovan, george tracy, as they run 550 bhp pug engines with 45mm restrictors, they're nearer 800 unrestricted.

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 22:01
birk

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Post #231
Thumbs up Pete

Matt/pug1off used a 200mm twin ceramettalic jobbie, he wanted £1300 for it lol

Mei - I will have a look around and see if I can find any info on there cars, crazy bhp is that.

Which ones phill, it's a different spline size to the 6 remembers Smile

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 22:02
phillipm

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Post #232
The splines aren't an issue, you just order the right centre with the clutch when it comes to race plates, in true Blue Peter mode, here's one I ordered earlier. Right spline too, 230mm though Wink


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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 22:46
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Post #233
isnt that renault box a 21 spline shaft Phill?

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 22:49
phillipm

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Post #234
That's the 21-spline ML pattern, straight fit on the Renault box.

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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 22:51
eddy_gti6

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Post #235
Think its time for an update Dan!?!

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luke306rallye

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Too busy with his house and mtb's Sad
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