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danposs86

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Last night, driving home from work, what looks like a shallow puddle actually hit a deep ravine!

Fast forward to today, just taken the spark plugs out, and they are wet, bugger. Tried to turn the engine, got a bit of water spurting out but there was water in every cylinder. The engine seems to be locked when in gear.

I am thinking bent valves or bent rod.

Either way I think a new engine would be the easiest option Sad

Was planning on buying a new laptop too Sad

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Posted 5th Jan 2012 at 14:31
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rallyeash

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does the engine turn over by hand, ie socket on the crank pulley?

if so, get an oil sucker or similar to suck the water out the pistons, then try a compression test across all 4 pistons, should be within 10% of each other.

if there not or it doesnt turn by hand, most likely a bent rod my freind.

i rebuild my gti6 because of flood damage, 4 bent rods and a ovalled crank!! covered nearly 20k since then and she's a beauty Smile

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Posted 5th Jan 2012 at 14:41
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whip all the plugs out and turn it by hand, if it does turn ok then dump some wd40 down the bores and spin it over on the starter with plugs out.

if it doesnt, rebuild time.

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Posted 5th Jan 2012 at 15:24
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vecsri

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We bent 2 rods in the xsara vts at much lower speed Dan.
When I'd decided it was goosed. Not even trying to tow it with another car in gear would move the engine.
The 2 rods were so bent it hardly moved on the crank either way.
Posted 5th Jan 2012 at 15:30
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danposs86

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Post #5
Went and bought an engine last night.

This weekends job is to do the swap.

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 11:28
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Dean_GTi6

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Hi all. I'm new to the 306, only had it a couple of weeks. I hit a puddle a couple of days ago. The car has an open K&N and after hitting the puddle the car was popping and farting for a good few miles. Is this a characteristic of sucking up a bit of water. Seems to be running fine again now though.
Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 12:36
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danposs86

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Was it a puddle of Rice Krispies?

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 12:40
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Dean_GTi6

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Naa pal it was around tea time but thanks for the rapid response
Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 12:44
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danposs86

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Well mine just stopped didnt have time to pop or fart Sad

If its running fine with no tapping or loss in performance then you should be fine.

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 12:52
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Dean_GTi6

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Post #10
Well it seems to perform the same, might have the compression checked. Haven't driven it enthusiastically since. Did you have an open air filter fitted? Mine started chugging about then became stable below 2000 revs, but when 2k was reached it would bog down then try to cut out. Rectified itself after a short while. Tempted to get hold of a standard air box and chuck a perfomance filter in it.
Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 13:03
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marco gti6

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This is something i'm freaking scared about. Really sorry to hear this danposs. My K&N 57i kit is lovely but as ialso don't have an undertray i have had some brown trouser moments the last couple of weeks.
I hope you get it sorted mate Thumbs up
Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 17:42
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musclebeach

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Sorry to hear this! One time in my P2 i hit a puddle and like Dean_Gti6 mine coughed and spluttered for a few hundred metres and the lights went dim......then it sorted itself out. Avoided puddles like the plague in the Blue P1 though

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 18:01
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davewagon

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Well that sucks!

But i like your project thread, so we'll all be treated to a tasty update soon eh ??

LOL

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 18:36
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JoeyD

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musclebeach wrote:
Sorry to hear this! One time in my P2 i hit a puddle and like Dean_Gti6 mine coughed and spluttered for a few hundred metres and the lights went dim......then it sorted itself out. Avoided puddles like the plague in the Blue P1 though


lol! I do exactly the same with that whacking great PiperX sucking everything up!
Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 19:49
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danposs86

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I have updated my thread HERE

Hopefully I can get more photos over the weekend as we go.

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 20:48
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justinaccurate

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The typical flow of this story goes, that even if it all appears to be working again after a hydrolock, within a few weeks expect the engine to blow up Shut up
Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 20:54
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thugpuggin

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Who did you get engine off? Unlucky on previous engine. Good luck with this one.

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 21:02
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danposs86

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Got it off eBay.

Also justinaccurate, if it goes bang its your fault now.

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 21:18
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musclebeach

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JoeyD wrote:
musclebeach wrote:
Sorry to hear this! One time in my P2 i hit a puddle and like Dean_Gti6 mine coughed and spluttered for a few hundred metres and the lights went dim......then it sorted itself out. Avoided puddles like the plague in the Blue P1 though


lol! I do exactly the same with that whacking great PiperX sucking everything up!


Haha, erm yeah don't do that.........really, don't....i was going to buy a standard airbox for it just in case we flooded like the other year......remember that year we literally had half a metre of water?

I remember taking 4 hours to get back home, asked one guy if it was ok to go that way he'd just came, he said "yeah sure it only came just below my bumper" , i thought "nah not a chance because my black one had a pipercross one on too and it'd ave sucked it up in seconds!! Just drive it gently when it's really lobbing it down until you've sorted the air intake out, i dealt with it by just slowing down when it was really wet and avoiding every puddle i could!

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Posted 6th Jan 2012 at 21:19
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JoeyD

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I slow down and let off the throttle so the throttle body is closed until well past any standing water. Do you reckon any spray from travelling behind cars on the motorway etc could get in? I was always worried travelling on a wet motorway in it... might search for a standard box just to be safe tbh! It sounds awesome, but not worth bent rods/valves!
Posted 7th Jan 2012 at 01:55
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cooper666

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poor carShock can't post in your project but car fitted the stud to accept the 136 cam belt mate.

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Posted 7th Jan 2012 at 10:56
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jonnie205

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a k&n is what you want, the std airbox rams water into the induction system where an induction kit wont, the water will hit the induction kit filter but it wont be forced through it like the std airbox will do. We found this on impreza and 206 rally cars, a foam filter with no box is the way to go in terms of saving engine in water
Posted 7th Jan 2012 at 11:17
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phillipm

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Or one of those little oil-breathers tee-d in higher up the system. Reduces the suction on the water through the main filter.

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Posted 8th Jan 2012 at 01:09
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danposs86

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Anyone ever used this?

Air Bypass Valve for Cold Air Intakes

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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 16:53
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atterz

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Phil made a much easier point, get yourself one of those alu pipes with the little dump valve take offs and put a little ICV style KandN filter and it will relieve the vacuum. Like above but cheaper!

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Posted 27th Jan 2012 at 17:46
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