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rikky 🦔

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Post #1
saw this - clicky about the E10 fuels and how cars that aren't compatible will be stuck basically. not sure how likely this is to continue

also noticed here no XU peugeots are compatible LOL

http://www.flexfuelkit.com.au/articles/8/1/Can-my-car-use-ethanol-blended-fuel-E10/Page1.html

Unsure discuss

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 09:32
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infact i have changed my mind and i am not arsed, because it's such a small amount that i bet my gti6 will be on a scrap heap before i have issues

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 09:39
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you'll be fine, you have plastic fuel lines, the only metal components are the pump, fuel rail, and injectors.

seals can be replaced.

big load of scaremongering basically.

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 10:07
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Wouldn't worry about it tbh, my 1.4 has had nitrometh and allsorts through it and the seals are still going fine LOL

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 19:53
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I'm expecting the gov't to use this as an excuse to force the price of normal fuel higher.

Will have to wait and see I guess

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 23:22
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Normal unleaded will definitely go up, whilst this will be introduced at nothing less than unleaded is at the time. The only difference in running will be that on ridiculously cold mornings it might be a little slower to start... 'bout it really...

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 23:27
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What will the octane rating of this fuel be 95 or 97?

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 23:55
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97-100 I believe.

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Posted 20th Dec 2011 at 23:59
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Happy with that Smile More boooost!

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Posted 21st Dec 2011 at 00:08
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At work we are quite concerned about this increasing percentage added. We do Aston Martin restoration, along.with other classics. We're quite worried about how it will all play out.

Especially as the cars may be sat without being driven for sometime. Fuel tanks are also a source of concern, both for cars and bikes too. A fair few lads at work have classic British bikes, they're pretty concerned

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daver6 wrote:
At work we are quite concerned about this increasing percentage added. We do Aston Martin restoration, along.with other classics. We're quite worried about how it will all play out.

Especially as the cars may be sat without being driven for sometime. Fuel tanks are also a source of concern, both for cars and bikes too. A fair few lads at work have classic British bikes, they're pretty concerned


Could use this clicky but as a long term/everyday use they will need to make it safe for all cars as 6.99 per tank full isnt viable

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Posted 23rd Dec 2011 at 11:50
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My Focus won't be affected, shame!

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Posted 23rd Dec 2011 at 14:45
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topshot_2k wrote:
daver6 wrote:
At work we are quite concerned about this increasing percentage added. We do Aston Martin restoration, along.with other classics. We're quite worried about how it will all play out.

Especially as the cars may be sat without being driven for sometime. Fuel tanks are also a source of concern, both for cars and bikes too. A fair few lads at work have classic British bikes, they're pretty concerned


Could use this clicky but as a long term/everyday use they will need to make it safe for all cars as 6.99 per tank full isnt viable



Yeah, we've looked at additives, but it isn't an option for a lot of customers. It's a shame it seems to be overlooked by the majority at present.

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Posted 24th Dec 2011 at 00:40
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surely a restored vehicle will have new fuel system parts made from modern materials which will cope just fine?


it'll be much the same as running race fuel, as that has a fairly high ethanol content to bump the octane rating up.

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Posted 24th Dec 2011 at 00:50
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http://www.carsguide.com.au/tools-and-advice/hints-and-tips/can_my_car_use_e10

Was looking into this a little, interestingly in a more detailed graph I've found our cars have an exception for e5 too, which means that we technically shouldn't be using Tesco 99 as its e5. I'm not sure how much of an effect it has however.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 13:36
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bit of a s**t list,

"Citroen All models post 1998 ok ok "

they use XU engines too...

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 13:43
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So all Pug/Citroen are E10 compatible from 1st January 2000 according to that list then...Smile

Anyone know if my 2005 model GSXR1000 will be ok off the top of your head? Unsure

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 14:59
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what does your handbook say?

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 15:13
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LPG ftw!

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jammamayhew wrote:
LPG ftl!

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welshpug! wrote:
surely a restored vehicle will have new fuel system parts made from modern materials which will cope just fine?


it'll be much the same as running race fuel, as that has a fairly high ethanol content to bump the octane rating up.


Depends on the customer/build level etc

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 19:18
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welshpug! wrote:
what does your handbook say?


Not sure, will have to have a read....Yes

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 20:19
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Stan when I found the above link I did see one thing about bikes. but it was pretty much brand names and then all since 97 etc. I'll see if I can get it now.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 22:21
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
So all Pug/Citroen are E10 compatible from 1st January 2000 according to that list then...Smile

So does that mean a late phase 3 will be ok whereas my 99/v phase 3 won't? Doesn't make sense Dunno

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Posted 23rd Mar 2012 at 00:27
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Personally. I'd say no. I doubt they accounted for the fact the gti6 ran until then

After all they do say No XU engines

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Posted 23rd Mar 2012 at 00:30
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