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phillipm

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Post #26
rikky wrote:
hey geoff, any updates?


Says the man with the top secret 205 project LOL

Or has that just turned into a Midlife-build?

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Posted 21st Sep 2012 at 19:23
rikky

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Post #27
phillipm wrote:
rikky wrote:
hey geoff, any updates?


Says the man with the top secret 205 project LOL

Or has that just turned into a Midlife-build?


LOL it's so top secret even i don't see it!

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Posted 22nd Sep 2012 at 19:32
jorg

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Post #28
A rare weekend off means I finally have a bit of time to do something car related. After waiting ages for a decent set of 4 pots to come up for sale I bit the bullet and bought these from pete_rallye.



then two days later a set of AP Racing CP5200 calipers popped up on ebay so snapped them up too Roll eyes



Choosing what size rotor I was going to use would be a difficult decision. As I have 2 sets of Pro Race 2's, 1 set of Pro Race 1.2's and 3 Pro Race 1's all in 15" size and direct fit I wanted to make sure all the alloys fitted over with no problems. I was very tempted to go with 310mm but the TD 1.2's really are p**s poor for clearance compared to the TD 1's and 2's. After much thought I went with a pair of 300x28mm rotors from Hi-Spec as I can run these on a 0 offset bell so wouldn't have any balljoint issues.



Yesterday I knocked up a bell out of 9mm MDF (will be getting them made 8mm thick) so I could do some last minute testing before I get the real bells made. Went down the garage this afternoon to test on the car and I am happy to say it clears the balljoint by a far bit. The rest of the day will be spent finalising the bell design and will look at getting them made over the next few weeks.







and finally a pic of one of the calipers on the kitchen scales with RC6 pads Ninja

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Posted 30th Sep 2012 at 16:11
pinkfloyd

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Post #29
I've got a good contact in Ellesmere Port for making bells, calliper mounting brackets etc if you need it.

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Posted 9th Oct 2012 at 19:59
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Post #30
Well after 14 months of ownership the bas**rd thing is still on axle stands Sad but I do have some updates Ninja

Last sunday I took a trip to Nottingham to pick up the 2.1 S16 engine that Doof had for sale on the 205GTiDrivers forum. It made more sense to sell the bits I had gathered for my own engine build to fund this ready built one. By the time I had finished selling parts I had covered the engine, a set of TD Pro 3's and a brand new 106 electric power steering pump Big grin

When Sandy Brown mapped the engine it made 180bhp+ atw on a GTi-6 Inlet manifold so I will be hoping for around 200bhp+ atw once I have fitted some throttle bodies Cool I have already sent off a inlet manifold to Mr Satchell and he hopes to have it ready by early next week. Once that arrives I shall place my order for the throttle bodies and other bits.

Of course once I started going down this route there was other parts I would need to sort out to get the full benefit of the setup, namely replacing the crap exhaust manifold which was fitted to the S16 Sad As luck would have it Stuwee had just put his jenveys up for sale on the forum, knowing that his car had a 4-2-1 maniflow ex manifold fitted I pm'd him to see if it was available. A few days later it arrived Thumbs up



I will start updated this thread regularly now as soon as bits start arriving or parts are fitted. I only plan on doing one event this year due to work and thats in September so that gives me 5/6 months to pull my finger out.

During the last few months I have also picked up some bargains off eBay like a TRS Carbon roof vent for a whopping £45 delivered, the cheapest I can find new is £330 LOL







and my collection of TD alloys, I think thats a full house!

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Posted 1st Mar 2013 at 15:01
dangti6

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Post #31
Pro Race 1's FTW.

Chop chop.

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Posted 1st Mar 2013 at 15:14
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Post #32
Wheelwhores Unite!
Posted 2nd Mar 2013 at 15:44
midlife

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Post #33
phillipm wrote:
rikky wrote:
hey geoff, any updates?


Says the man with the top secret 205 project LOL

Or has that just turned into a Midlife-build?


Shock has jorg been waiting years for some rear shocks tooDunno

Cool

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Posted 2nd Mar 2013 at 16:51
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Post #34
No I am pretty happy with my rear shocks thanks Wayne Whistle

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Posted 2nd Mar 2013 at 18:50
midlife

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Post #35
f**k!!!!
What's going on here Jean Luc.....
Looks like every man & his dog has a set of Fox rear shocks, well, all except the person who asked for them first.

Cool

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Posted 2nd Mar 2013 at 23:02
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Post #36
Well, I thought I'd better wait until your car was ready, otherwise the oil might have gone off by the time you roll it out of the door Whistle

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Posted 2nd Mar 2013 at 23:03
jorg

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Post #37
Some goodies from Colin Satchell arrived during the week Love









that meant of course I would have to pull my finger out, get down the garage and remove the old engine. I had planned on doing it last weekend but the crappy weather put a stop to that. The sun was shining this morning so I had no excuses, one hour later I had the engine out and the subframe dropped.





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Posted 29th Mar 2013 at 15:39
russbez

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Post #38
engine bay pretty clean for its age then?

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Posted 29th Mar 2013 at 16:28
welshpug!

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Post #39
nice manifold, I have one but its an early one that doesnt fit, any chance you could measure across the top and bottom between the studs so I can work out how different they do them now and whether they'll fit my ZX?

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Posted 29th Mar 2013 at 16:34
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welshpug! wrote:
nice manifold, I have one but its an early one that doesnt fit, any chance you could measure across the top and bottom between the studs so I can work out how different they do them now and whether they'll fit my ZX?


I will have a look tomorrow afternoon after work Mei Thumbs up

I need to give the engine bay a clean but it doesn't look to bad at all, I don't think the car has done more than 200 miles in the last three years so that helps LOL

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Posted 29th Mar 2013 at 16:47
welshpug!

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probably done 200 miles on a trailer tbf LOL

Cheers Geoff Smile

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Posted 29th Mar 2013 at 16:52
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Post #42
just tried sending you a message Mei but your inbox is full. Am I right in thinking that its the measurements between the stud holes on this that you require?



If so the tops are roughly 70mm and the bottoms are 110mm (that is measuring from the centre of the threaded holes)

if thats not what you need let me know and I will try again tomorrow Thumbs up

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Posted 30th Mar 2013 at 17:37
welshpug!

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Post #43
I was meaning from head face to jenvey flange face Smile

ta for the headsup, didn't realise Inbox was full!

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Posted 30th Mar 2013 at 17:54
jorg

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Post #44
After working the last 10 days in a row I finally had a day off to do some work on the car, I got down to the garage to find some scummy bas**rds had dumped the contents of a house right in front of the doors Angry




I phoned the council to report it and did my best to move everything to one side so I could gain access, I wish I never bothered! When I removed the engine a few weeks ago I had a few issues with the solid engine arm and the alloy mount. One problem was that they didn't seem to sit flush together and the other problems was I could not get the bolt out of the alloy mount and get them separated.



My attempts today to get them apart didn't go too well No the mount was then stuck in the cradle and had to get a chisel and hammer on it to get it out Doh



So now I need to get a new alloy mount made up, plans to get the engine fitted by the end of the month are now looking pretty slim Sad

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Posted 12th Apr 2013 at 16:08
daveyboy

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Post #45
No you don't, you just need to drill out the stud and tap the hole for a new bolt. If you're struggling post it to me and I'll do it for you, I'll helicoil the thread too so it'll last.

Looks like you just need to use a grinder to get the clearance you need on that mount by the way, no big drama Smile

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Posted 12th Apr 2013 at 19:34
rikky

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Post #46
there's no thread through the spacer you can see, it was just literally a big spacer with a bolt to pass through to the threaded captive nut. you could probably just put it on a bench drill and get it out or some heat and whack it out

ps bay is tidy as I'd repainted it all!

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Posted 12th Apr 2013 at 20:02
jorg

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Post #47
I have been talking with Phillip and he reckons that the bolt may be bent inside the spacer as the arm wasn't sitting flush. I will have a go at getting the bolt out in the morning but if I can't do it I will give you a shout Jim Thumbs up

the angle grinder had already been planned Yes I will just have to cut down the bit I had to use the chisel on to get it off the car LOL

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Posted 12th Apr 2013 at 20:16
blandy

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Post #48
Great project. Just out if intetest what's the reasoning behind the short trumpets?
Posted 12th Apr 2013 at 20:27
jorg

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Post #49
The short trumpets are what Colin Satchell supplied. I left him to sort out the size as he does everything to an overall tract length. Martin (Devere) was sent the same size trumpets when he ordered his setup from Colin too.

I am very happy to go with whatever the Colin and Sandy recommend Yes they certainly know better than me LOL

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Posted 12th Apr 2013 at 20:38
welshpug!

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Post #50
inlet is far longer, so shorter trumpets are required, shape is also important, sandy has done a fair bit of testing to figure out the most suitable shapes.

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Posted 12th Apr 2013 at 20:51

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