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mike306

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Afternoon guys. I've recently replaced the standard shocks & 60mm springs that were on the car when I bought it with some B8s & eibachs. When fitting them, a fair bit of skewing of the hub/strut was required to get them to line up.
The drop links were also replaced as I had to cut the old ones off, other than that the wishbones/TRE's are still the same.
Now there seems to be a noticable amount of neg. camber, and a little bit of toe in on both sides.
The struts/top mounts aren't meant to have covered that many miles, they're off CUJ's old rallye.
Any help would be much appreciated Smile

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Posted 29th May 2011 at 21:50
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Rich E Forum Admin

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Sounds like you have the wrong ball joints fitted to the wishbones (although, that would cause positive camber).

Can you post a photo?

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Posted 29th May 2011 at 22:05
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mike306

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As requested:









Not sure if this helps to see it better



I know the driveway isn't level, however there is a noticable difference from before - they were much straighter on the standard shocks/60mm springs.

And yes I know the bumper is in a state, on the ever growing to do list Roll eyes

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Posted 29th May 2011 at 22:45
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Yeah, that's definitely not right.

I've only seen that sort of camber once before (on smighall's blaze 6), and that was caused by bent dampers.

Did you check them over before fitting?

I wouldn't drive it like that as you'll kill the tyres in no time.

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Posted 29th May 2011 at 22:46
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Oh joy, well they looked to be straight at first glance, can't say I checked in detail. Just presumed they'd be ok having bought them from a reputable forum member. Guess I'll have to take them off and double check. Unsure Looking increasingly like I'll be attending FCS in the zx Roll eyes

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Posted 29th May 2011 at 22:55
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Took the drivers side shock out and I'm presuming it's not meant to look like this...





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Posted 30th May 2011 at 23:31
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kurb/ditch impact Shut up
Posted 30th May 2011 at 23:44
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Yeah they look... odd.

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Posted 30th May 2011 at 23:55
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For sale thread

Sneaky edit there tvrfan Roll eyes

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Posted 30th May 2011 at 23:59
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tvrfan007 wrote:
Yeah they look ... like they been driven into a snowy ditch


Whistle
Posted 30th May 2011 at 23:59
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welshpug!

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bummer Sad

I'd give Bilstein UK a call, they may be able to replace the casings.

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:03
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Cheap way to get negative camber, why did'nt I think of that?

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:05
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lotek

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welshpug! wrote:
bummer Sad

I'd give person who sold you it a call, they may be able to replace the casings.
Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:06
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daveyboy wrote:
Cheap way to get negative camber, why did'nt I think of that?


i was thinking the same thing LOL
thats some serious gains!!!
Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:07
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Totally f*cked Yes Sad

Get on the blower and get your money back Yes

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:36
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Rofl at Lotek.

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:38
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Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:43
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Oh dear they are shagged

This should be an interesting thread LOL
Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:52
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Humpback bridge? LOL

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 00:58
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Haha well I'm glad this thread is providing some entertainment Whistle Cheers for the suggestion Welshpug, will give that a try first. Not going to kick off just yet though, will contact the seller before I say any more, I'm intrigued to know what the response will be.

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 01:07
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welshpug!

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phillipm wrote:
Humpback bridge? LOL


did you ever see that picture of your Wishbone brace? Ninja

though afaik that was before I fitted these to Jon's car, I think he did Re-visit it a few times....

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 01:19
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So to get some negative camber on the front, all I need is some balls, a humpback bridge, lot's of speed and some air? Hmm interesting

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 01:31
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mike am in blackpool the next few days, want me to come take a look?

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