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demondriverdan

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Post #726
100% agree, get a diff. Not sure which ones will handle your power and torque though, maybe something to check. I think the 3J isn't rated for very much.

I'm not going out on track again until the next batch of improvements are done. When they are, we should definitely do a trackday together Smile

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Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 08:02
Chr1sch

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Post #727
prism7guy wrote:
Small update, Cadwell has been and gone and i'm well impressed with the Nankang AR-1's.
Coolant and oil were a little warmer than i'd have hoped for but seemed stable and it was quite a warm day.

Here are some of the videos:
Trying to keep up with Pete
Following Cully
Session 1
Session 2 - Trying to keep up with a Porsche GT4
Session 3
Session 4
Session 5
Session 6
Session 7


Fair do's you have some big balls haha!

Enjoyed those clips, the power looks great, i desperately need some more now!

Keep the updates (and a diff...) coming
Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 11:36
welshpug!

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Post #728
any lsd or atb diff is better than standard diff tbf.

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Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 11:53
pete_rallye

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Post #729
Yeah, I ran an ATB for a long time and it was a vast improvement over an open diff, a plate diff is better in that you can feel it pull you around the corner but they can be a bit sketchy too. I never really 'felt' my atb working but noticed how much faster I was cornering.

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Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 17:58
cully

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Post #730
my ATB was epic around cadwell around chris curve i could power all the way hugging the inside white line,
before it would of understeered off onto the grass on power just scrubbing tyres
Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 18:10
prism7guy

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Post #731
I've been in touch with 3J and they reckon the diff for the BE3 box will handle 350bhp no worries, i'm nowhere near that so that's what i'll probably go for when i get round to buying one.

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Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 18:17
Day666

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Post #732
For your 3j Speak to Miles at Pug Performance 07795 482589....amazing price & helpful advice .
Remember you have to file down a couple of areas where the plate diff catches Thumbs up
Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 18:28
prism7guy

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Post #733
Cheers Damien, it was going to be Miles i ordered from anyway Thumbs up

I'll get some engineers blue when i get the diff to see where needs fettling in the housing. Smile

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Posted 16th Sep 2016 at 18:52
prism7guy

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Post #734
Just been preparing the car for the trip to the nurburgring, i've bonded some kevlar over the aluminium strips that strengthen the bonnet, one of them came off at Cadwell so this should help hold them in place and provide significantly more strength again. First time trying to work with kevlar, trickier than it looks! LOL


Also, it looks like my catch tank is somewhat doing it's job, this is all from one trackday which i'm not too sure is ideal, how much do other peoples catch?

The oil was getting to ~120c, i got through ~100 litres of fuel at the track so i'm guessing i did somewhere between 100-150 miles.

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Posted 23rd Sep 2016 at 20:13
cully

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Post #735
at cadwell with yourself i racked up a total of 147 track miles about 67 laps using 40 ltrs of fuel 16.7MPG

if you used 100 ltrs for the same milage that would take you lower than 8MPG lol Big grin good effort
Posted 23rd Sep 2016 at 21:05
blandy

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Post #736
Not much help bu intrigued as to what others say about the catch tank as mine has collected prob 100ml in 2 track-days but dont know whats regarded as acceptable

Car certainly looks like it was going well from the vids though
Posted 28th Sep 2016 at 16:31
prism7guy

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Post #737
Yeah I was hoping someone in the know would have chipped in to give us an idea. I emptied the catch tank the other day and the oil in it was very runny, and smelled almost like petrol, a little concerned about that but the wideband lambda doesnt show it as running excessively rich so im assuming its just because it's oil that has been vapourised to make it like it is.
Not much i can do about it now anyway, off to the 'ring on friday Big grin

Tonight i've replaced the track rod pinch bolts with some 12.9 fine pitch cap screws, one had somehow loosened itself despite having a nyloc on it causing some knocking and also throwing the tracking out all over the place, i've re-set it to parallel again now. A quick test drive later and it all feels good.

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never trust a man in a nike hoodie. i used to wear nike hoodies when i used to be a bad man, and i was not to be trusted.
Posted 28th Sep 2016 at 19:46
prism7guy

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Post #738
Took the car to the Nurburgring last weekend. Heres a few pictures from the weekend.









The weather was pretty awful most of the weekend, i didn't even bother trying to get any laps in during the rain as standing water and semi slicks don't tend to mix too well, especially on the nordschleife!

Due to the crap weather i only managed 6 or 7 laps over 2.5 days, the track closed on monday evening at 7, which meant they stop letting us on at around 6:45. Due to the rain earlier in the day there had been a few crashes (over four cars i noticed on the previous lap to them closing it), this was around 4-5ish when they closed it. The rain was holding off and i held out in the carpark waiting for the potential track opening for one or two final laps before setting off home.
The carparks were starting to clear up as more and more people gave up and headed off home.
Eventually at around 6:35 there was movement in the carpark so i got on the track as quickly as i could with the intention of going for a new personal best. Here's what happened:
Clicky

It's a shame as it could have been a pretty decent lap time and it cancelled my plans of heading on for a second lap straight after.
After that i dropped my mate off in the carpark and limped back to the apartment to start fixing the car. I had a spare charger on me, and a belt. Upon inspection it seemed that two of the long m10 bolts clamping the 'charger bracket to the engine mount have sheared, allowing the bracket to pivot round on the other two bolts, which caused the pulley damper setup to rub on the chassis leg destroying them. I didn't have these as spares so i simply removed the 'charger and ran a shorter aux belt to just run the alternator, and put the air filter directly onto the throttle body on the inlet manifold whilst taping up all the boost pipework to stop anything getting in.
The car made it all the way back like this, fueling is fine provided it's not under a lot of load.







Now i'm in the process of designing and making the replacement parts, some bits will be re designed to make the setup stronger and hopefully more reliable, ready to go back and have another stab at the 'ring again next year.

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never trust a man in a nike hoodie. i used to wear nike hoodies when i used to be a bad man, and i was not to be trusted.
Posted 6th Oct 2016 at 19:15
stef306

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Post #739
you dont have much luck with chargers do you LOL

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Posted 6th Oct 2016 at 21:02
manthos

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Post #740
The person in the 306 behind you has no helmet on

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Posted 6th Oct 2016 at 21:16
prism7guy

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Post #741
stef306 wrote:
you dont have much luck with chargers do you LOL


I just don't seem to have any luck Doh Laugh

manthos wrote:
The person in the 306 behind you has no helmet on


I was only on a TF day, so it's open to the public, helmets are not required.

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never trust a man in a nike hoodie. i used to wear nike hoodies when i used to be a bad man, and i was not to be trusted.
Posted 6th Oct 2016 at 21:17
99rallye

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Post #742
manthos wrote:
The person in the 306 behind you has no helmet on


.......forget the helmet. Did you not see the spoiler!?...and matt paint. To be honest he probably has so much downforce he doesnt need a seatbelt either.

Bad luck on the charger but I'm sure you can make the mount stronger in V2.
Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 07:50
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Post #743
with diablo rubstips and wing morons and what look lie purple cyclones.. one he'll of a bad colour theme

also looks like the rear is jacked up

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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 07:53
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Post #744
Ah gutted mate, don't have much luck do you. Sad

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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 11:09
prism7guy

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Post #745
tvrfan007 wrote:
Ah gutted mate, don't have much luck do you. Sad


I have loads of luck, it's just all bad luck Laugh

I was talking to the owner of the other 306, he was a nice bloke from Germany who has another 306 which is his race car but that blew its engine so he brought that one along for the day.

I spoke to my boss earlier about getting my car parts sorted, he gave me the go-ahead to make the replacement parts so i've ordered the relevant aluminium to make a start on revision 2.0 and ordered new high tensile capscrews.
Hopefully i'll get most of the machining done in the next couple of weeks as theres a trackday i've got my eye on in november. Smile

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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 17:21
pug_306

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Post #746
Trackday the 13th by any chance buddy?

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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 17:56
prism7guy

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Post #747
It's the 19th at Brands Hatch, i've not been there yet and have a couple of mates going so thought i'd give it a try, assuming i can get the car sorted in time.
All this track action is prolonging the time it's taking to save for a diff though Laugh

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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 18:09
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Post #748
19th of this month? Planning on doing brands soon but maybe not that soon Hmm

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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 20:00
prism7guy

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Post #749
19th of November Thumbs up

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never trust a man in a nike hoodie. i used to wear nike hoodies when i used to be a bad man, and i was not to be trusted.
Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 20:35
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I'm doing Brands on the 2nd of December. Its a bargain (139), why don't you guys get involved!?
Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 21:06

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