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 pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
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Hi all, I'mIntending on fitting kad top mounts but have noticed I can't use my strut brace due to the new 4th bolt being in the way! Does any one know of any make of strut brace that can incorporate the new inboard 4th bolt? Thanks Ollie |
 Posted 17th Dec 2010 at 18:29
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Just drill and tap a new hole somewhere else mate, as long as you have the three/four bolts in rough equal spacing you won't encounter any issues.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 17th Dec 2010 at 18:42
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Won't be able to do that with my strut brace I can get the top bolt in the brace, the out board bolt does not go threw the brace and the bottom one I can use and that goes threw the brace. The strut brace mounting plate is half moon shape and does not have much land on to drill other holes near where it should be,I wanted to know of other makes that allow all 4 bolts, not sure if the e-reck ones do? |
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Posted 17th Dec 2010 at 20:07
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #4
OMP use fully circular mounting plates on their braces, giving you plenty of options for alternative bolt location chap.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 17th Dec 2010 at 21:23
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Are omp ones adjustable? Never really liked the omp ones tho! |
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Posted 17th Dec 2010 at 21:48
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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pugheaven wrote: Are omp ones adjustable? Never really liked the omp ones tho! Yes, plus they are simple, and strong, not like the nancy E-Tech ally ones. Plus bieng steel they are easy to modify if you need to. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 17th Dec 2010 at 21:55
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
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Strut brace on a 6 is pointless anyway.________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 18th Dec 2010 at 05:41
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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mabgti wrote: Strut brace on a 6 is pointless anyway. Interesting thing to say, but let's move on. Ollie - I have an OMP one - it's solid, easily adjustable and feels very good quality. As has been pointed out it has full rings at either end so you've got a lot more room if you need to modify it.  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 19th Dec 2010 at 17:48
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Can you put a bolt on the inboard side under the brace so you have one every quarter. |
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Posted 19th Dec 2010 at 21:54
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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This is the best picture I can find, which looks like it might be possible to do so: ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 19th Dec 2010 at 22:04
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #11
What I mean is when you have the strut brace in place can you put a bolt at the 3 o'clock position on the drivers side and 9 o'clock on the pass side or does the brace it's self get in the way of doing so? Don't want to buy one and find out I can't have bolts at 12,3,6 and 9 o'clock position!Thanks Ollie |
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Posted 19th Dec 2010 at 23:10
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Just fit proper 306 topmounts?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Dec 2010 at 23:20
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Still have the same problem with the strutbrace being in the way of the 4th bolt! |
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Posted 19th Dec 2010 at 23:29
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #14
but there's only 3 bolts  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Dec 2010 at 23:32
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Are you talking about standard top mounts or have the compbrake 306 solid top mounts only have the 3 bolt holes, I thought you would have had to drill a forth? |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 00:54
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mabgti
NV motors Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
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pugheaven.. i reiterate there is no point and yes i got rid of my omp one because i couldnt get the inbound bolt on..the best one to get is the E-tech one as it allows this  ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 02:14
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Oh well freshly powdercoated silver custom strut brace up for sale soon then which is a shame as i liked it as it follows the line of the bulk head! |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 02:37
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #18
An E-tech is a flimsy piece of shiny shite so I'm not surprised you noticed no difference  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 03:09
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #19
FFS You don't even need a forth bolt, most mounts make do with three. There is bugger all side load on a topmount and the weight of the car holds it in position too. You don't need to worry about having a bolt at every quarter either. But if you feel it really needs if needs that extra bolt and you cant get at it, drill a hole in the upper part of the bracket on the brace so you can get an allen key on a capscrew underneath. Not rocket science. And I felt a noticable increase in steering feel with the addition of my brace but everyone is entitled to an opinion (Even if it's wrong  )________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 04:14
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Tbh, I haven't seen one yet that was all that impressive that I'd buy one, they make the most difference if they're very torsionally stiff around the strut top area as that is what makes the most difference to the harmonics and twist over rough roads/deflections with uprated suspension - provided you can get a bit of preload on there.A good example is the alloy ones on the latest Astons, wide bar and stiff at the mountings, just a pity about the bend in it... The one77 has a lovely example but no struts The actual effect on the camber angle from chassis deflection is fairly low - we're talking maybe tenth of a degree, the bottom brace is orders of magnitude more effective at that simply because of the leverage difference and the rack being mounted down low - as it affects the tracking too, which you feel much more than any camber change, the upper does have some effect here too though - if you've got a good one. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 04:30
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #21
I know u don't have you have all four as the standard ones only use 3 I just wanted to fit all four bolts so it looked better, not sure what I'm goin to do but I won't be fitting a e-reck brace! If I could get a pick up of the brace u might understand and ur right it's not rocket science but you still can't do what you are saying! Looks like I'll be making my own brace to incorporate all 4 bolts! |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 14:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #22
my car only uses 2!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 14:50
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #23
All this hassle because you want the 'look' of four bolts? Superglue a bolt head somewhere people will see it then  Don't fancy a show cage too do you whilst you're at it? ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 14:56
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Show cage and some pink dice plz mate, apparently ur the "bloke" to see for some gay stuff. |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 17:22
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #25
I only ask a few questions on this site, and personally I don't think they are stupid things to ask about, a few members are very helpful others are clearly just commenting to waste their time which does not help at all.It's my choice what I do or don't do and I would like to think I am mechanically minded so don't need stupid comments that don't help at all! I am aware I don't need a strut brace, I am aware I don't need all 4 bolts but what I am not aware of is a strut brace that will take all 4 bolts as that is what I want and that is what this thread is about! Thanks for the helpful comments tho peeps |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 17:44
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