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Author Subject: Help needed with Omex 600
roberts_306

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Post #1
I have just tried to upload a map file onto my Omex 600 ECU, when using the Map 3000 software its says the ECU is offline, spoke to Omex they said its probably the lead.

Omex said try using different USB ports which I did still no luck.

What leads have you been using was considering a RS232 to RS232 lead?

Any comments or suggestions please!

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Posted 13th Aug 2010 at 12:16
daveyboy

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Post #2
You have got a permanent 12 volt feed coming in on the red wire when the ignition is in the run position have'nt you? If you pick a wrong wire to use as your live feed it can be live when you turn the ignition to the first position but then go when you turn the key further to the crank position.

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Posted 13th Aug 2010 at 13:31
roberts_306

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Post #3
The wiring is correct as the ecu is getting power as the fuel pump is starting

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Posted 13th Aug 2010 at 15:02
daveyboy

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Post #4
If it says its offline its probably not getting power. I'd re-check that supply if Im were you. By the way I have that map now if you still need it?

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Posted 13th Aug 2010 at 16:53
mabgti

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Post #5
if its getting power and priming.. the omex should be ok..

are you using a serial>usb convertor?

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Posted 13th Aug 2010 at 19:06
Carl Chambers

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Post #6
Fuel pump primes when ignition is turned on and also runs when cranking, plus the rev counter jumps so Omex has got power, the problem seems to be the lead or the lap top!

Ideally need a lap top with a serial port but these are hard to find, so using the usb port, I have searched online and found loads of people having problems but no real way round it other than finding a old lap top with a serial port? any one have any ideas? anyone done it using the usb port?

Computer knows the ECU is connected and the lead is in but it says ECU is always offline.

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Posted 14th Aug 2010 at 01:48
rcarney1989

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Post #7
plug a normal pc up next to the car LOL jokes

but get a good expensive serial to usb or even better a serial t e/sata

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Posted 14th Aug 2010 at 02:00
miles

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Post #8
Easy fix this one, You need to find a suitable PCIMA card, Pot luck really so buy a few
I'm surprized Omex didn;t say this as it quite common knowledge

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Posted 14th Aug 2010 at 04:42
mabgti

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Post #9
huh?

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Posted 16th Aug 2010 at 23:54
roberts_306

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Post #10
Now sorted

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 00:16
Carl Chambers

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Post #11
miles wrote:
Easy fix this one, You need to find a suitable PCIMA card, Pot luck really so buy a few
I'm surprized Omex didn;t say this as it quite common knowledge


mabgti wrote:
huh?


thats what I thought?!

Anyway got an old computer with a serial port and got the correct lead (after trying 4 places!Crazy )

and the base map went straight on no problem!

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 00:19
mabgti

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Post #12
as said previously usb>serial convertors are SHITE... i've bricked 3 VAG ecu's with em! No more... fresh toughbook for all my remapping nowSmug

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 03:12
miles

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Post #13
Whats not to understand about a PCIMA card with a RS232 port on, as Mabgti's said USB ones are ****

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 03:40
chris with a pug

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Post #14
I disagree with that, I use a USB to serial converter almost everyday to configure routers. They work fine never had a problem. Laptops with serial ports on are a dying breed
Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 03:49
Carl Chambers

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Post #15
miles wrote:
Whats not to understand about a PCIMA card with a RS232 port on, as Mabgti's said USB ones are ****


depends if you know what one of those is!!

engines good, computers notLOL

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 03:58
daveyboy

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I'll be sending Dave my map tomorrow lunchtime Smile

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 04:10
alastairh

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chris with a pug wrote:
I disagree with that, I use a USB to serial converter almost everyday to configure routers. They work fine never had a problem. Laptops with serial ports on are a dying breed


Agreed. I use to use them all the time. I now prefere the spanners though!

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 04:11
phillipm

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The Prolific chip'd USB>Serial converters are pretty reliable, I use those all the time with no problems.

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 04:14
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chris with a pug wrote:
I disagree with that, I use a USB to serial converter almost everyday to configure routers. They work fine never had a problem. Laptops with serial ports on are a dying breed


chris.. usb to serial convertors use their own drivers which dont allow ECU upload baud rates... some can get away with it but most dont.. obviously a PCMCIA card convertor does away with drivers as it has designated port adresses so is ideal if you have oneYes

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 04:23
chris with a pug

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I can change the Baud raitings on mine.
Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 04:38
phillipm

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Same here?
It should install as a normal comm port just running through the driver as a translator program, so if you go to comm settings you can alter as per normal.

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 04:40
chris with a pug

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Post #22
phillipm wrote:
Same here?
It should install as a normal comm port just running through the driver as a translator program, so if you go to comm settings you can alter as per normal.


Exscatly. I need to change mine for different applications
Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 04:46
miles

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or buy a Emerald with a USB port, LOL, shame the software isn't available yet thou!!

But I;ve never had any luck with USB thing'e's, maybe the £3.00 I spent on it may had been the problem with my XP lapo top

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 05:30
Denis

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Post #24
There are two main chips for the USB to RS232 adapters: Prolific and FTDI.

In my experience most cheap dongles have Prolific chip and do not work properly. On the other hand, FTDI works every single time.

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Posted 17th Aug 2010 at 06:02
mabgti

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prolific is all ive used... henceLOL

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