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Author Subject: compatable beams
lotek

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Post #1
is it only the 306HDI & Xsara Vts beam that can be used with the gti6?

Or can i use of any 306/xsara beam?

the TB's and ARB are not an issue.
im just unsure about toe and camber etc.

Posted 2nd Dec 2009 at 21:33
lotek

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Posted 2nd Dec 2009 at 22:51
mxcrazy

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Aslong as it is a disc beam it'll be fine, the gti6 has, if i recall correctly, 4.2mm toe in, the xsara 5mm and the citroen zx16v 0mm, some of the lesser model 306s have around 3mm i think, but they are drum.

The beam to have is the zx 16v, makes the car a little less stable but turn in is better, plus they have 21mm tbs, they are hard to get hold of though, me being a dumbass, i had a complete zx volcane td with disc rear beam, so 0mm toe, but i sold the whole car for
Posted 2nd Dec 2009 at 23:46
lotek

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with the hdi estate, is it just the HDI or can i use the GLX HDI one?
Posted 2nd Dec 2009 at 23:49
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any of them will fit, you'd just need to change the torsion bars etc over, and if its not disc that's not the end of the world if you already have the disc bits.

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Posted 3rd Dec 2009 at 01:45
lotek

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i know they will fit , but i dont want to affect handling, and they all have different toe/camber values. so i want to be sure of what ones i can use. Thumbs up
Posted 3rd Dec 2009 at 01:48
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ahhh I sees, ok, I'm unsure as to the values other non-sport or estate beams use, you'd best be getting a 306 sport level beam to be sure, i.e XS XSi ir DTurboHDI.

the xsara's run more toe in, which would make them more stable at speed but a bit more woolly on the initial turn in, quite the opposite to the zx which is parallel and runs more camber too.

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Posted 3rd Dec 2009 at 02:01
anthony

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mxcrazy wrote:
Aslong as it is a disc beam on the other hand, the more toe a beam runs, the more 'camber' you will give it by lowering it, all be it rather little.

You've got that the wrong way around.

Because the point around which the trailing arm pivots is in front of the wheel, you'd need toe out for the amount of (negative) camber to increase as you lowered the beam. With toe in (as most PSA beams except ZX's have as standard) the amount of (negative) camber will increase as you raise the ride height.

As said though, the amounts involved are small and to be honest not really worth worrying about.

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Posted 3rd Dec 2009 at 15:47
mxcrazy

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anthony wrote:
mxcrazy wrote:
Aslong as it is a disc beam on the other hand, the more toe a beam runs, the more 'camber' you will give it by lowering it, all be it rather little.

You've got that the wrong way around.

Because the point around which the trailing arm pivots is in front of the wheel, you'd need toe out for the amount of (negative) camber to increase as you lowered the beam. With toe in (as most PSA beams except ZX's have as standard) the amount of (negative) camber will increase as you raise the ride height.

As said though, the amounts involved are small and to be honest not really worth worrying about.


Indeed i have, my bad Whistle
Posted 3rd Dec 2009 at 21:04
pdd144c

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Or just got some arms machined to suit whatever you are using the car for?

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Posted 4th Dec 2009 at 02:22
hovis16

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Post #11
beams are gay mines bloody keeping noise again and this beams been rebuilt i say lets all go independent sus haha

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Posted 4th Dec 2009 at 02:25
phillipm

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It is independent!


Jeeesus. I'm fed up of typing that today.
Who rebuilt the beam?

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