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 availablebmx
Regular  Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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My 6 has just had head work and piper 272 cams... Im going to get it mapped my Wayne at chip wizards soon, but the problem is I live 4 hours drive away...Will it be okay to do such a long journey in the car before it has been mapped up to the new cams? Thanks ________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
 Posted 24th Sep 2009 at 21:04
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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I would say no, if you have a misfire or any detonation then your car will die long before you get there. Can you organise a trailer or recovery truck with a beaver-tail?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Sep 2009 at 22:45
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bulldogs
Senior User  Location: rainham kent Registered: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 885 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I was told by pug performance ,that the ecu will self map .The guy before me had piper cams put in,the ecu failed after 2 years of me owing the car.Now i have a unlocked ecu and it runs fine |
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Posted 24th Sep 2009 at 23:36
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gtomi-6
Seasoned Pro  Location: southampton Registered: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,136 Status: Offline |
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i have herd the same. the 306 has a selv learnign ecu. it adjusts the levels to suit. collin at pug performance isnt running a after market ecu and he has got lairyer cams in it than that.________________________________________ ph3 gti-6 china blue- mint conditionph2 gti-6 nile blue K.I.A dec 2010 |
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Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 01:06
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availablebmx
Regular Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I don't know anyone with a trailer unfortunately, and I'm guessing that a recovery truck would cost an arm and a leg?So can I not drive it at all until it's mapped..? ________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
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Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 01:11
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,297 Status: Offline |
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do you have break down cover? say you gearbox is shot and they have to take you back home cough cough wanynes  ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 01:16
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availablebmx
Regular Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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I don't have break down cover  ________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
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Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 02:26
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scoty18
Regular  Location: aberdeen Registered: 13 Apr 2009 Posts: 233 Status: Offline |
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disconnect the battery for 10 mins then start the car up let it idle for a min or 2 and take it for a drive, the ecu will detect decent settings. You might need to have the ecu unlocked tho. The only tweaking i needed was to fit and adjust an adjustable fuel pressure regulator. (and maybe the cam timing if they arnt set perfect 1st time  )________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th Sep 2009 at 00:27
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xaero1
Senior User  Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Aug 2009 Posts: 835 Status: Offline |
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Search Ebay for cheap car transport services. They usually charge around ________________________________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
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Posted 28th Sep 2009 at 23:49
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pete26
Seasoned Pro  Location: maidstone, kent/ eastbourne Registered: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,826 Status: Offline |
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availablebmx wrote: you have a 6 without breakdown cover, id sort that asap man, I don't have break down cover ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI6Ph3 China GTI6 206 xsi manstone daily runner (GAY) Ph1 Cherry Red GTI6 307 HDi 110 |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 01:32
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #11
you dont need it to be mapped! look at my spec and mine has not been mapped!It may perform better if it was mapped but cant justify spending 400 quid for a few hp. Just drive it you will love it. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 01:30
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aperrott
Regular  Location: the north Registered: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 269 Status: Offline |
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pete26 wrote: availablebmx wrote: you have a 6 without breakdown cover, id sort that asap man, I don't have break down cover dear god man get breakdown cover before you do anything else, you will need it  |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 01:37
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availablebmx
Regular Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
Post #13
haha I did think this...Yeah pugheaven, I spoke to someone at pug performance today and he said exactly the same thing! Although I also spoke to a local tuning company and they suggested that I would be best getting a stand alone ecu, as the standard ecu will not adjust that much, only a little... I'm going to a local rr next week to see how much power she has, and if it's not on the money I guess I will have to go down the stand alone route... All these mixed opinions are very confusing :s ________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 22:05
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #14
i wouldnt trust what pug performance say tbh. whats the point of getting cams if you aint going to get it setup properly ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 22:09
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availablebmx
Regular Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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pugheaven... Just checked your profile! My car is pretty similar as regards to modification... Have you had a power run at all, what bhp you putting out..?________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 22:12
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spiky
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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some amazingly BAD advice.drive the car there, under 3k and it will be fine, having cam's it will benefit from a remap and the std ecu will be able to mapped to compensate for it, no probs  wayne has mapped mine and i have a graph for 195bhp touch more than std  ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 22:56
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #17
well iv been drivin my car for years mate, not one problem. No ecu mapped. It was 197 at the fly, it was a brand new engine tho. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 23:45
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bulldogs
Senior User Location: rainham kent Registered: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 885 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Mine has had piper 270 cams in for 5 years,183 bhp at the flywheel,fitted by pug performance and guess what .No probs |
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Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 23:47
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #19
its bull, i wouldnt spend 1k on management just with 270 cams tho mate waste of money |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 02:45
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availablebmx
Regular Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
Post #20
okay mate... i'm getting it back tomorrow and will take it easy for a bit and see how she goes! hopefully I'll be pleasantly suprised at the rr ________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 04:09
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millsyxsi
Regular  Location: Exeter Registered: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 488 Status: Offline |
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availablebmx wrote: okay mate... i'm getting it back tomorrow and will take it easy for a bit and see how she goes! hopefully I'll be pleasantly suprised at the rr I ragged my 106 xsi with uprated cam and no map, Just make sure timings best it can be! ________________________________________ "They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time." |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 04:14
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availablebmx
Regular Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
Post #22
well fingers crossed then... i'll report back tomorrow! ________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 05:33
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availablebmx
Regular Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
Post #23
got the 6 back tonight... Dispite a few hickups it is pretty impressive! Just need to get it spot on now...________________________________________ Thomas - Black 6 rollin' on black 15's...197bhp - 155.8bhp/135.4ft-lb atw |
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Posted 1st Oct 2009 at 04:55
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bulldogs
Senior User Location: rainham kent Registered: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 885 Status: Offline |
Post #24
So you never had it mapped then? |
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Posted 1st Oct 2009 at 23:03
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lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #25
kenny had his car cammed at pugperformance, meaning his is not mapped. and his is fine???is there any truth in what this company are saying?? i popped down there today, and asked about cams , he said you dont need a remap . are they just saying that because they are not able to map themselves?? |
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Posted 1st Oct 2009 at 23:18
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