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what bhp you gettin out yours?________________________________________
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 dans16
Regular  Location: spalding Registered: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 319 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:38
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darrellspeed
Senior User  Location: Exeter Registered: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 814 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Reduced by 10bhp would depend on exactly how far tuned your engine is. e.g if you had a 10 bhp engine it wouldnt suddenly not have any power cos you changed an air filter, but an engine running near its max say 240 -250 bhp N/A would need every bit of flow possible so ANY obstruction will loose you BHP. ________________________________________ 205 XU10J4RS by PUG1OFF 236.4 BHP at Northampton Motorsport.Lets Race! |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:43
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Well, say you're putting out 200bhp on 'bodies with a '6 engine, 'bodies and some bits and pieces.Now, you might loose 3bhp at most with a proper sausage filter. Maybe 1bhp with a proper sausage filter + airbox, you wouldn't ever tell the difference. Stick some cheap socks on there and you could well be suddenly missing 15bhp... IIRC someone on the 106 rallye site lost 30bhp because of trumpet socks + confined space for airlfow, on a 150bhp engine - ouch! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:46
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dans16
Regular Location: spalding Registered: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 319 Status: Offline |
Post #29
wel its runnin 231bhp wil be at 245 wen get new manifold and system so wouldnt make much dif wid a proper sausage________________________________________ 234 BHP TB RALLYE¼ mile 13.9 MY PROJECT THREAD |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:20
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: Well, say you're putting out 200bhp on 'bodies with a '6 engine, 'bodies and some bits and pieces. Now, you might loose 3bhp at most with a proper sausage filter. Maybe 1bhp with a proper sausage filter + airbox, you wouldn't ever tell the difference. Stick some cheap socks on there and you could well be suddenly missing 15bhp... IIRC someone on the 106 rallye site lost 30bhp because of trumpet socks + confined space for airlfow, on a 150bhp engine - ouch! To be fair though, the 106 is a terrible configuration for bodies anyway, they face backwards (no ram effect) they are tight up against the bulkhead (no decent trumpet length) so the importance of a decent type of filter is even greater when you are up against it right from the start. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:43
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Ram effect doesn't work the way most people think it does though Jim, facing backwards doesn't really matter tbh, but the rest doesn't help.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:34
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dans16
Regular Location: spalding Registered: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 319 Status: Offline |
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wel that dont matter to me coz mine is a 306 rallye not a 106 so because i running 231 bhp at min puttin sausage filter and backplate from jenvey wont make to much difrence wil it?________________________________________ 234 BHP TB RALLYE¼ mile 13.9 MY PROJECT THREAD |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:39
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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dans16 wrote: wel that dont matter to me coz mine is a 306 rallye not a 106 so because i running 231 bhp at min puttin sausage filter and backplate from jenvey wont make to much difrence wil it? Not enough to worry about as long as you keep it clean and oiled. Pipercross do an aerosol oiler that makes that job easy. PAS relocation kit costs a few quid though, thats the opnly downside. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:45
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dans16
Regular Location: spalding Registered: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 319 Status: Offline |
Post #34
o right k then wel i get one them cleaning kits at home and yer i no been talking with Rich_W who does them pas relocation kits________________________________________ 234 BHP TB RALLYE¼ mile 13.9 MY PROJECT THREAD |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:54
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #35
wots the engine spec being 231 bhp? is it a 2.1?edit, just seen the spec on ure profile, nice! ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:56
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dans16
Regular Location: spalding Registered: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 319 Status: Offline |
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o right thanx yer just need new manifold and stainless system then been told it be pushing 245-250bhp just dont no were get performace maifold from________________________________________ 234 BHP TB RALLYE¼ mile 13.9 MY PROJECT THREAD |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 20:05
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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maniflow probably your best bet. id be suprised you'd get that much as i assume you dont have a standard exhaust at the moment?________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 20:59
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dans16
Regular Location: spalding Registered: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 319 Status: Offline |
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wel i running 231 now on standard manifold n exhaust system wel i got back box in it n dat it________________________________________ 234 BHP TB RALLYE¼ mile 13.9 MY PROJECT THREAD |
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