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dans16

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i just got set jenvey throttle bodies put on rallye and have no filter want just 1 long pipercross filter what one do i need and wel it fit coz not much room round left side of bodies what you lot think??

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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 23:05
bigbadbowen

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Go o n the Jenvey web site mate - you can get the filter you need there - All depends how long the trumpets are Wink
Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 23:21
rallye1999

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do a google search for the pipercross shop, you choose your backplate then the filter depth, works around
Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 23:32
dans16

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o ryt k then thanx but there loads difrence back plates i dont no what one need what ones you lot got?

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 03:40
rallye1999

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are they individual or they a pair of twin throttles?
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 05:06
dans16

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there twin throttle bodies

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 15:23
cjm_harris

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I got my filter and backing plate from Jenvey, speak to them and they will make sure you get the right one Yes

Mine came without the holes cut for the trumpets though, this is something you have to do yourself, but I have an image of where to cut, and dimensions etc if you need.

There is also f*ck all room to have a filter on the 6 engine.

The best practice is to have the PAS relocated to where the air con compressor is. (Obviously you will loose the air con) This gives a lot more room for a decent air box set up.

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 15:56
dans16

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o right cheers oright where that then coz i got a rallye and it dont hav air con?

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 16:42
rallyestyle

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dans16 wrote:
o right cheers oright where that then coz i got a rallye and it dont hav air con?


You can locate it down by the sump where the air con would have been Yes

Speak to Rich_W as he sells a kit that will allow you to relocate it Yes

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 16:53
dans16

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o right k then does it tel u how move it in the pack? how do i speak to him?

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 17:17
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Just click on 'PM' and you can send him a message

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 17:26
daveyboy

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dans16 wrote:
o right cheers oright where that then coz i got a rallye and it dont hav air con?


Your power steering pump is just to the left of the end of your inlet manifold, once you get your bodies on you will notice that it will be in the way when you come to fit a filter backplate.
You will need to re-locate the power steering pump down to the brackets on the sump (that are there for the unused air-con compressor) using the extended pipes and special bracket that Rich Walker supplies.
Then you will have all the room you need for fitting your dome filter/backplate assembly. Smile

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 17:26
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ok thanx wel did wonder if would fit with power steering pump there so need get one them kits to move it? as wel got told puttin a filter on throttle bodies reduces bhp by 10bhp this true?

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:03
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dans16 wrote:
ok thanx wel did wonder if would fit with power steering pump there so need get one them kits to move it? as wel got told puttin a filter on throttle bodies reduces bhp by 10bhp this true?


Maybe if you let it get filthy dirty and never cleaned it, otherwise, bullshit.Dry

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:21
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dans16 wrote:
as wel got told puttin a filter on throttle bodies reduces bhp by 10bhp this true?


Unsure

Doubtful, its only a bit of foam, it's not going to reduce flow and reduce it by 10 bhp No

Even if it did, I would rather have a filter and know that nothing is going to get sucked into my engine.

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:07
dans16

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o right wel i got the car done at pug1off and that what they said and yer that what i was thinking and can always be taken off for track use

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:14
jungle jim

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I have the pipercross filter and have moved the PAS pump down to the sump. It's worth doing as it gives you so much more room. Pretty sure the filter doesn't fit without moving it.

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:17
daveyboy

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jungle jim wrote:
I have the pipercross filter and have moved the PAS pump down to the sump. It's worth doing as it gives you so much more room. Pretty sure the filter doesn't fit without moving it.


It can just be fitted, but you need to ofset it really far over to the right, which looks terrible.

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:19
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dans16 wrote:
o right wel i got the car done at pug1off and that what they said and yer that what i was thinking and can always be taken off for track use


Shock

Pug1off said that? I do hope they didn't also advise you to drive round on the road with no filter LOL

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:19
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dans16 wrote:
ok thanx wel did wonder if would fit with power steering pump there so need get one them kits to move it? as wel got told puttin a filter on throttle bodies reduces bhp by 10bhp this true?


99.9% of statistics are made up on the spot Whistle LOL

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:22
rallyeash

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Post #21
using the shit indivitual pipercross air filters can curb the power by a few bhp. but a decent sausage style itg filter certainly wont.

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:26
phillipm

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Sock-type filters can loose you that easily.

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:26
dans16

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Post #23
wel they said it be fine but i just wont get one be safe.

jungle jim were you get your kit from to move it?

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:30
cjm_harris

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phillipm wrote:
Sock-type filters can loose you that easily.


Ahh really?

I considered sock-type filters as they are so much cheaper, and means you don't have to remove the PAS etc.

When I ordered my Jenvey kit, I asked about socks, and they persuaded me to buy their filter (at the time just thought it was salesman shit to make you spend more LOL)

Glad I went for that filter now Cool

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:36
dans16

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o right but if i get a hole one and back plate from jenvey it wont affect it?

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:37

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