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 306andy
Senior User  Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Well, as some of you may know. I got rear-ended back in April, writing off the '6. A blessing in disguise maybe...  Nice... Anyways, I acquired a ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
 Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 22:56
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Then I wheeled the 306 out the garage so the 205 could go in to its new home for a few weeks/months. I'm no mechanic (scientist by trade) Swapped the Clutch for a BX 16v Version  205 in the Garage     Then I swapped the Gearboxes over and test fitted the '6 Lump to see what was needed for it to fit     ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:01
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paul_13
Senior User  Location: Reading Registered: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 693 Status: Offline |
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Yay another one  Your lucky with the clearance on the pic above ^ I cut the lip out thats pictured and used an extended 10mm engine fork and the exhaust still fouls the body. Out came the BFH  ________________________________________ 205 GTI6- Rebuilt engine, lightened flywheel, lightened pulley, 307 hdi brakes, Koni struts on gravel spec springs, 22mm TB's, 24mm ARB, Roll cage, Citreon ZX rear dampers, SL434's, Xsara box, Quickrack, Pipercross enclosed induction kit. Private work, not a prob |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:05
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
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I'm now in the process of re-fitting the Engine. The Top Mount rubber gave way and sheared off, which i'm taking as a blessing due to it being stationary, and not 100miles away on a track somewhere. FAIL!  I'll be using the 306 Top Mount and modifying the surrounding plate to give enough room for said mount. The Bulkhead has also been "fettled with" to give enough space for the manifold to sit correctly, without the need for it to be bent. This is about all i'm up to so far on it. ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:08
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,297 Status: Offline |
Post #5
sorted yours yet paul? long live the 6 205 :Lol________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:07
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paul_13
Senior User Location: Reading Registered: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 693 Status: Offline |
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Nope  wiring woes.I have a standard rubber mount if you want it? I'm replacing it with a Baker BM one ________________________________________ 205 GTI6- Rebuilt engine, lightened flywheel, lightened pulley, 307 hdi brakes, Koni struts on gravel spec springs, 22mm TB's, 24mm ARB, Roll cage, Citreon ZX rear dampers, SL434's, Xsara box, Quickrack, Pipercross enclosed induction kit.Private work, not a prob |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:11
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jonnyboy17
Seasoned Pro  Location: Wisbech Registered: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,183 Status: Offline |
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Looks good pal... good luck with it  P.S.. got any bits off the 6 for sale? such as those headlights  ________________________________________ Team Dirty Black... Formerly Known as Astorsharland wrote: When women don't behave like they do on brazzers.com in real life it disappoints me. rikky wrote: the day i own a credit card is the day i saw my helmet off and fire it from a potato cannon |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:14
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #8
jonnyboy17 wrote: Looks good pal... good luck with it P.S.. got any bits off the 6 for sale? such as those headlights The Headlights are very much available. They're a DIY Job though and, i'll be perfectly honest, aren't the best. Both lenses have scuff marks from the previous owner of the lenses and ideally they'd need to come apart again to have the reflector cup closed off (ph2 Bodies with Ph3 Lenses - ph2 have reflective lenses meaning the internals don't need "closing off" to dispurse the light output, where as Ph3s are clear and thus have a "closed off" cup to reflect the light around the lense - sorry for the waffle) You're more than welcome to them for a small sum. If you're interested PM me with an offer. ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:30
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #9
paul_xiii wrote: Nope wiring woes.I have a standard rubber mount if you want it? I'm replacing it with a Baker BM one Cheers Paul, but i'm gonna have a bash with the 306 one for what its worth. If it still won't sit correctly inside the sorrounding plate, i'll probably nip to GSF where they sell them BNIB for a mere ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:32
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paul_13
Senior User Location: Reading Registered: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 693 Status: Offline |
Post #10
No worries You'll need the 6 accelerator cable, the 205 jobby doesnt fit BTW ________________________________________ 205 GTI6- Rebuilt engine, lightened flywheel, lightened pulley, 307 hdi brakes, Koni struts on gravel spec springs, 22mm TB's, 24mm ARB, Roll cage, Citreon ZX rear dampers, SL434's, Xsara box, Quickrack, Pipercross enclosed induction kit.Private work, not a prob |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:42
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #11
paul_xiii wrote: No worries You'll need the 6 accelerator cable, the 205 jobby doesnt fit BTW I know, the bloody things about 6" too short and thats even before its wrapped around the throttle! Luckily I have said item still attached to the '6 ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
IIRC the 306 one is too large a diameter on the body of the bush, has to be a 205 one.I would buy o.e or BBM, the GSF one is nowhere near gti spec, let alone gti6 spec! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 23:45
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Its back on all three mounts now, albeit only temp, as the exhaust clearance is still an issue. I may extend the lower torque bush mount to give me the little clearance I need, or grind out some more of the bulkhead seal...hmm________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 02:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #14
NOOOOO!!!!chop the fanimold! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 03:47
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: NOOOOO!!!! chop the fanimold! F*ck that Meirion!  The '6 Exhaust Manifold is a Masterpiece in its own right, and knowing my skills i'd rather not ruin it!  ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 03:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #16
rather that than f*ck the shell ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 04:16
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #17
*fetches coat* Fair point mate. If i were to extend the lower mount a small amount, say 15mm or so, would this have any detrimental effects on the Oil circulation?________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 04:25
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springs
Regular  Location: Farnham Registered: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 294 Status: Offline |
Post #18
i would use the bbm mounts. got them on my 206 gti which i have just finished putting a 6 engine into |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 15:52
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #19
extend the mount 10 -15 mmm, this wil them pull the exhaust off the bulkhead and allow more MC cam cover clearance. I always like to leave the manifold as it should be. Best use a group N lower mount. You will have no problem at oil with oil circulation.Best way is to fit engine where you want it them lay under car and mig weld a few tacks on the mount then remove it and weld it up properly. For the downpipe, cut the upper flange off, remove the part inside the flange, offer flange up to manifold, cut downpipe to fit car, tack weld downpipe to flange, remove a weld properly |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 16:31
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spiky
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
Post #20
7mm max i extened minem, but thats on a track car that gets ALOT of abuse, more on a road car might be ok, but i had mine just over 10mm and the drive shafts were knocking on trackcut the bulkhead, it's only a 20yrl pug after all accelerator cable i got from factors and cut to length did you unlock the ecu before ripping the engine out? ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 16:33
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #21
I've used the 306 Top Mount as thats fitting snuggly in there, the Torque Bush is a PugSport mount and turns the car into a sex toy at the traffic lights. Thanks for the advice Jonnie, I appreciate it! Spiky - The ECU Wasn't unlocked before I removed it, and in hindsight, knowing what I know now, should have done. I will be sending it off to Rich_W to have it unlocked and the rev limit raised slightly via some Ph1 Software. As for the Accelerator Cable, i'll use the 306 one and cut it down to length if necessary. I'll stick some pics up of the engine back on its mounts later, i'm shattered and filthy from working on the 306 V6 to do them now. ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 23:11
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paul_13
Senior User Location: Reading Registered: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 693 Status: Offline |
Post #22
I've got an unlocked ecu, if your desperate________________________________________ 205 GTI6- Rebuilt engine, lightened flywheel, lightened pulley, 307 hdi brakes, Koni struts on gravel spec springs, 22mm TB's, 24mm ARB, Roll cage, Citreon ZX rear dampers, SL434's, Xsara box, Quickrack, Pipercross enclosed induction kit.Private work, not a prob |
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Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 23:24
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #23
What Phase is the ECU off? Any idea?________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 26th Jun 2009 at 00:37
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306andy
Senior User Location: Derby Registered: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Pictures of the '6 Lump back on its mounts    ________________________________________ TEAM 205 GTi-5TEAM Phase 1 GTi-6 xbox Live tag: SilverGTi6 |
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Posted 26th Jun 2009 at 00:38
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paul_13
Senior User Location: Reading Registered: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 693 Status: Offline |
Post #25
I do not have a clue to be honest, it's was off crooksy old astor, weren't a phase one though.Are you going to be able to get the MC back in with the engine in place? I can't ________________________________________ 205 GTI6- Rebuilt engine, lightened flywheel, lightened pulley, 307 hdi brakes, Koni struts on gravel spec springs, 22mm TB's, 24mm ARB, Roll cage, Citreon ZX rear dampers, SL434's, Xsara box, Quickrack, Pipercross enclosed induction kit.Private work, not a prob |
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Posted 26th Jun 2009 at 16:44
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