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dorkvonwaterfall

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Post #1
how to make neg camber in the front?

cheapest way off course Happy

evt homebrew?

have bilstein coilovers
Posted 1st Mar 2009 at 16:45
phillipm

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Post #2
Longer wishbones Wink
Or, longer wishbones, and sleeved struts:



Whistle



If you're on coilovers a set of adjustable topmounts will get you a little, provided you have enough thread on the top of the dampers to fit them.

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Posted 1st Mar 2009 at 16:50
dorkvonwaterfall

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Post #3
where to get the parts?

Posted 1st Mar 2009 at 16:52
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Original poster is from Denmark btw.

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Posted 1st Mar 2009 at 17:46
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Post #5
The first, at the minute the only places I know are Special Tuning, Voisin Racing and KRS.

The second you'd have to have a set of special coilover bodies made for.

The third you can get from Compbrake, KRS, ST, and probably many other.

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Posted 1st Mar 2009 at 20:14
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Post #6
phillipm wrote:
The first, at the minute the only places I know are Special Tuning, Voisin Racing and KRS.


Would they be the ones that are over

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Posted 4th Mar 2009 at 02:30
phillipm

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Posted 4th Mar 2009 at 17:41
dorkvonwaterfall

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Post #8
how about making the holes in top bigger?

btw, what means "sleeved struts"


Posted 9th Mar 2009 at 00:08
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See here, KAD 205 adjustable top mounts off ebay

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Posted 9th Mar 2009 at 05:26
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Sleeved struts - use a thinner strut casing than normal and put an offset sleeve in the hub - you can only get a little bit extra this way though

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Posted 9th Mar 2009 at 07:50
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Post #11
@midlife
looks great, but wont work for me, cause im not allowed to weld in the plate (MOT doesnt allow that here) and i also have to be able to put in the original suspension for MOT....

Posted 9th Mar 2009 at 11:18
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Post #12
phillipm wrote:
Sleeved struts - use a thinner strut casing than normal and put an offset sleeve in the hub - you can only get a little bit extra this way though


The other option is to machine the hole in the hub at a slight angle and make a sleeve to fit normal strut. You can go up to about 1deg

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Posted 9th Mar 2009 at 16:37
gti6loon

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Post #13
russian guy wrote:

Practically you can not move standard top mounts with standard spring pans as they are very close to the body as is.


Id say realisticly most of us who are looking to mess about with the camber are probably using coilovers anyway.

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Posted 9th Mar 2009 at 16:47
dorkvonwaterfall

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Post #14
how much camber do these give?

http://compbrake.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=12&products_id=3573
Posted 15th Mar 2009 at 23:49
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Do it like this

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Posted 15th Mar 2009 at 23:49
soton_s16

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I take it the above top mounts from Compbrake work with standard struts? No need to go to coilovers.

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Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 19:46
midlife

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Think you will find you need coilovers for any movement of the strut top.
I Use these click here
They are

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Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 22:28
dorkvonwaterfall

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Post #18
midlife wrote:

I Use these click here
They are
Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 22:54
vts_tibi

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Post #19
what do you guys think of this:

Monroe Magic Camber

a simple camber adjuster bolt, and it's capable to adjust +/-3

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Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 23:28
dorkvonwaterfall

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Post #20
cant use them on a 306.....
Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 23:24
vts_tibi

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Post #21
why so?

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Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 23:28
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Post #22
the top bolt is replaced with this magic camber bolt, and the bottom bolt remains in place

the top hole doesn't need modification, as for example the excentric part of the Monroe bolt is 10mm, whereas the bolt itself is only 8mm

and the original is 10mm also

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Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 23:32
dorkvonwaterfall

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Post #23
cause the struts arent mountet in a lower bracket, there just put into the swivel hub
Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 23:34
gti6loon

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Post #24
vts_tibi wrote:
the top bolt is replaced with this magic camber bolt, and the bottom bolt remains in place

the top hole doesn't need modification, as for example the excentric part of the Monroe bolt is 10mm, whereas the bolt itself is only 8mm

and the original is 10mm also


Go and take a front wheel off a 306 and have a look...all will become clear mate.

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Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 23:45
vts_tibi

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Doh sorry... forgot how our suspension looks like... Roll eyes

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Posted 16th Mar 2009 at 23:59

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