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Author Subject: Oil cooling
spillett170

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Post #1
Good evening im hoping for advice. I have just received new top hose without oil cooler. If I blank off the oil cooler bit on rad can I just run it without an oil cooler? At a later date I may add an oil coiler but will i do damage without any oil cooling for now?

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 00:52
demondriverdan

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Post #2
Depends on how you use the car really. If you're tracking, it's generally recommended to get a 16 row oil cooler as the oil gets quite hot.

I've removed my water / oil cooler on the race car with no issues, but I also run an oil cooler out front.

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 07:29
spillett170

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Post #3
Its not used for track or race or anything. The pipe is from spooks and I ordered the wrong one but I have been told I can just run without any oil cooling as the standard design isn't great anyway as hot coolant is sent in to cool down the oil?

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:17
welshpug!

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Post #4
send that overpriced wrong hise back and get an used oem one.

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:46
spillett170

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Post #5
Where do people normally mount oil cooler if i was to get one. Is it an easy installation?

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:49
spillett170

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Post #6
Welshpug. The fitting on the standard pipes seem rubbish mine was leaking amd tried 2 pipes and a new thermostat housing. I thought this would solve it and the fitting is very good. Any other ideas

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:51
welshpug!

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Post #7
never had leaking issues, just 2 seals anyway which are cheap.

you dont need an oil cooler on a standard engine, juat the heat exchanger is more thsn enough

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 11:30
eiei0

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Post #8
Sorry to Hijack the thread but I've never heard a good word about Spooks here is it somewhere to avoid,

The list lots of tasty bits and pieces for the 306
Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 11:31
Ben_W

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Post #9
They are good.....just pretty expensive.

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 11:34
spillett170

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Post #10
Ok. I have sent pipe back and swapped it for the one correct pipe. Peugoet made it that way for a reason so ill keep it the same. 👍.

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 13:59
pug_306

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Post #11
It's actually designed to heat the oil up quicker not to cool it. I have good used pipes if you get stuck.

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 16:04
alcon

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Post #12
pug_306 wrote:
It's actually designed to heat the oil up quicker not to cool it. I have good used pipes if you get stuck.


Always wondered that, why everyone refers to it as an oil cooler. Seems a fairy naff design to be a cooler so being an oil 'warmer' makes more sense now!

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 17:49
welshpug!

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Post #13
conversely once up to temperature the geat exchanger should dump excess heat into the cooling system.

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 17:50
alcon

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Post #14
welshpug! wrote:
conversely once up to temperature the geat exchanger should dump excess heat into the cooling system.


So once the oil passes a certain temperature, in theory it could be hotter than the coolant and thus transfer heat the other way?....a bi-directional heat exchanger....who ever thought the 306 could be so advanced!

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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 20:37
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Post #15
Yes, it's a heat exchanger - not a cooler.

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Posted 27th Jun 2020 at 21:44
Day666

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Post #16
Remember not having your oil warm enough is as damaging as having it too hot Thumbs up

I took mine off but let my engine and oil get warm before I drive it hard ...mostly on track though
Posted 27th Jun 2020 at 22:50
pete_rallye

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Post #17
Get yourself some 12v heat pads and heat you're dry sump tank before use! There not expensive. You can use 240v ones too if you've got a power supply nearby.

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Posted 27th Jun 2020 at 23:08
Day666

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Post #18
pete_rallye wrote:
Get yourself some 12v heat pads and heat you're dry sump tank before use! There not expensive. You can use 240v ones too if you've got a power supply nearby.


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Posted 28th Jun 2020 at 00:16
welshpug!

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Post #19
its common for rally cars to retain them as they often encounter stop start between stages, as well as having an air to oil cooler.

in a road car though if the oil is still getting that hot under normal conditions I'd suspect an issue somewhere causing it to get hot, and the heat exchanger not being able to dump the heat as well from being blocked or corroded.

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Posted 28th Jun 2020 at 13:03

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