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Author Subject: Recommissioning my gti6
greenie

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Gentlemen

I have been out of the country for four years and my 6 had been dry stored for that time. I've got it started and given it the once over. It looks great as I changed most of the joints and rubber components not long before I stored it. Very little rust etc. So I'm confident it will get through the mot with just a little work.
Problem is that it's always been a very mild tapper but now there is a louder knock somewhere in the head near the belt end.
Could this be a sticky hydraulic tapper that will regain pressure after a decent run or something more sinister?
Should I get the cam belt changed as a matter of precaution as its been standing even though it was done no more than 1000 miles before storage?
If I decide to change the head for a recon one can anyone recommend a good guy to do it for me?
Thanks
Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 18:23
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Just got exactly the same with mine been stored for a few months doesnt tap when cold just after it warms up going to run mine see what happend belt n pulleys where replaced 1k ago and are silent when cold

Having said any othwr idea s would be appreciate sticky tapper has already been suggested

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Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 18:50
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it probably is a sticky lifter but I would def change the timing belt after being stood for that long.

Also has the car been sat on it's tyres?

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Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 19:12
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Yeah, thought as much
I've got a ported inlet manifold and throttle body to put on.
Any suggestions on a hotter cam to go with it.
Pistons are standard so it can't be too extreme.
And yes it's been stood on its tyres which are perished so I need to change them all up.
Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 20:50
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It's a really nicely specd 6 with no rust issues and a tidy interior so I'm not worried about spending a little on the engine to get it running well again.
May change the ecu later as I have a powerflow exhaust for it in the garage too.
Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 20:50
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Good to see you back mate Was/is a tidy six yours.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 00:06
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Hey Ross
Nice to hear from you mate.
How are you doing?
Is that crazy project of yours up and running? I noticed you got hold of a dimma kit for it.
Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 06:54
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Up and running blew the gearbox on the dyno and now need to buy a sequential to solve the issues mate. The Dimma kit is work in progress too another major expense though will be worth it for the extra width of wheels I can run. Shame youres has started tapping, it may be a sticky tappett though I'd take it for a nice long drive get it up to temperature and see what happens. I'd say definite cam belt change needed tho mate. Though if you need to change the head might be worth getting some machined pistons and swapping them over so you can run a slightly lairier cam. All the best mate

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Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 07:53
armzsc6

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Yup as I said to Andy the other day and sent a video started up my 6 for the first time since Christmas a few weeks ago and after the first short drive to work there was a tapping from the head. After an oil change and a good drive it cleared up completely.

Sounded exactly the same as when I first started up Dan's phase 1 after it had sat for like 2 years with no inlet manifold on lol. Fine when cold soon as the oil got thin the head was tapping it's tits off. Started sounding more and more like a big end but after a couple of weeks of use with decent oil it cleared up completely and is now supercharged.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 10:06
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Excellent, there is hope.
Thanks chaps
I'm going to take it for an mot and run it for a week. I think I'll run some oil cleaner through and then change it up for some decent stuff.
Can't wait to get it rolling and clean again.
Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 12:28
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armzsc6 wrote:
Yup as I said to Andy the other day and sent a video started up my 6 for the first time since Christmas a few weeks ago and after the first short drive to work there was a tapping from the head. After an oil change and a good drive it cleared up completely.

Sounded exactly the same as when I first started up Dan's phase 1 after it had sat for like 2 years with no inlet manifold on lol. Fine when cold soon as the oil got thin the head was tapping it's tits off. Started sounding more and more like a big end but after a couple of weeks of use with decent oil it cleared up completely and is now supercharged.


Cheers pete may need you yet have the 6 to do soon Smile

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Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 12:44
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greenie wrote:
Excellent, there is hope.
Thanks chaps
I'm going to take it for an mot and run it for a week. I think I'll run some oil cleaner through and then change it up for some decent stuff.
Can't wait to get it rolling and clean again.


When I put engine flush in dans one while red hot it knocked like f**k got an awful lot louder. Then quietened down a bit once had decent 5w40 fully synthetic oil in. But still knocked quite badly for a few weeks then it stopped all together.

Mine literally was fine when I started it up in the garage at home.but after a 5 mins drive to work it started tapping from.the head but cleared completely after a good run and an oil change.

Fancy attending pugfest Greenie? Me and Aaron 6 will be driving past early on the Sunday morning. Your not exactly far out the way if you fancy it.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 13:28
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Really kind of you Armz thanks.
Unfortunately, I work in events and weekends this time of year are full
Its something I will gt to sometime when the car is up and running well again.
Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 20:31
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A similar experience of mine, recently:

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=158174

The thread title turned out to be a misnomer but that's where the sound seemed to be originating.
Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 21:01
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Nice, thanks again.
feeling much more confident!
Posted 23rd Jun 2016 at 22:07
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You were right!
Took the car for MOT today, by the time I got there it was running beautifully, just 5 miles.
It failed the MOT on a tyre and wipers.
After four years stationary that's frickin amazing.
So, I took it through the car wash spent some time on the interior and it looks a million dollars. Well chuffed.
Thank BigBad for the offer of doing the head for me but it looks like I wont need it.
Its having all the fluids renewed and a cambelt while its in the garage so it should be lovely and fresh.
On with the planned mods now I know its not dead.
Posted 25th Jun 2016 at 20:04
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I usually am right LOL glad it's running ok mate and good mot result there too.

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Posted 25th Jun 2016 at 21:16
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Heres a downer of an update for you.
As I said my 6 went through the MOT with a wiper and a tyre to fix. The mechanic was impressed with it and I asked him to service it and fit a new cambelt.
He told me that he felt that the drivers side caliper was sticking so wanted to free it up.
Turns out it wasnt the caliper but a fooked gearbox.
Does anyone want a really nice GTI6 with loads of goodies that needs literally a tyre and a wiper for the MOT but needs a gearbox?
I dont have the time or inclination to do this so its up for grabs.
Any offers considered.
Posted 29th Jun 2016 at 20:52
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greenie wrote:
Heres a downer of an update for you.
As I said my 6 went through the MOT with a wiper and a tyre to fix. The mechanic was impressed with it and I asked him to service it and fit a new cambelt.
He told me that he felt that the drivers side caliper was sticking so wanted to free it up.
Turns out it wasnt the caliper but a fooked gearbox.
Does anyone want a really nice GTI6 with loads of goodies that needs literally a tyre and a wiper for the MOT but needs a gearbox?
I dont have the time or inclination to do this so its up for grabs.
Any offers considered.



???
How did you get from caliper to gearbox what is the gearbox not doing e.g hows it broken

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Posted 29th Jun 2016 at 21:55
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I haven't seen it since the diagnosis actually.
My mechanic said that the right wheel was dragging and suspected a sticky calipers as its been standing.
He rang today to say it's not the calipers but it's gearbox
He mentioned crown something and the diff. Obviously I know nothing about gearboxes but I do trust him as I've used him for years and he's actually doing himself out of work by telling me this.
Any advice to the contrary would be very welcome!
Posted 29th Jun 2016 at 22:55
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armzsc6 wrote:
I usually am right LOL glad it's running ok mate and good mot result there too.


Mine to now chap so lovely n quiet oil ! hoo would of funkit Smile

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Posted 30th Jun 2016 at 09:11
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Tbh if you drove it in there then it will drive out. I've had tonnes of boxes on TU engines where the doff chips a tooth or the box bearings are shagged. Last one I did a clutch on for a friend on a knackered old 206 I told them the gearbox was f**ked as if you turned the offside wheel with the car in the air it just bound up in the box and felt awful.... there was also a tonne of swarf in the gear oil. However it drove fine and still going now LOL but never had it on an XU box in the same way. Had a few where the crown wheel pinion has suddenly let go and punched a hole through the diff casing.

But unless the diff is binding up a bit I can't see how he can mistake a seized calliper for a gearbox.... Doesn't quite add up to me. Not saying he's trying to mug you off but doesn't sound like the right diagnosis to me.

If you want bring it over to me when you get time I'll put it up on a ramp and show you what I find while your stood under it.

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Posted 30th Jun 2016 at 10:12

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