Post #151
Fair point. About 500hp of turbo power is going to be a s**t load of torque________________________________________
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 eliotrw
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 Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 10:36
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armzsc6
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Post #152
eliotrw wrote: Fair point. About 500hp of turbo power is going to be a s**t load of torque Be that as it may...... We wanna see more shiny things!  ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 11:10
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eliotrw
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Post #153
Also true.I want to see this done and on a dyno really..  ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 11:33
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birk
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Post #154
I'm a bit undecided as to what to do with the gearbox, that's the reason why progress is going a tad slow.I'm not sure if I should risk putting a 6 box on, if I take that risk, then I can get the £600 clutch and crack on with it, but the box I doubt will last that long. I could go to the effort of putting a different box on, focus rs mk1 for example, using a bell housing adapter and flywheel spacer, but that means a lot of custom work and a set of custom shafts. That choice delays the clutch choice, because the clutch plates will be different to match the gearbox splines. Not sure what to do tbh. ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 17:46
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phillipm
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Post #155
ML5?________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 17:54
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prism7guy
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Post #156
I'm interested to see how whatever box you choose gets on with the power and torque, as i may just copy you once i start chasing more power.  ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 17:59
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birk
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Post #157
Why did I never think of that lolWould I be better off with the ml5 or ml6 though. Hydraulic clutch is want I wanted aswell  ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:12
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eliotrw
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Post #158
Yeah thats a good point , you could get it cryo treated but even then you are probably going to put about 100 ftlbs more torque in that than anyone else.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:21
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eliotrw
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Post #159
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=104373&page=1 This bloke had 400 at the wheels Why don't all the high boost lot do this? Is the ml6 as strong as the 5? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:23
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eliotrw
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Post #160
Just found his project thread.Firstly A in the end he ran and got working a Citroen evasion box which I assume is a ml5 B he got 440hp at the wheels! C 1.3 bar on standard internals. WTF! I think we can safely say the box will take the power then...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPD8fgXzzt4&feature=youtube_gdata_player ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:32
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phillipm
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Post #161
birk wrote: Why did I never think of that lol It's what you get from living in Donny.  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:36
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prism7guy
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Post #162
phillipm wrote: birk wrote: Why did I never think of that lol It's what you get from living in Donny. I'd throw back an insult, if only i could think of one..  ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:40
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birk
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Post #163
442whp in the end for 6months before he sold it, so that's over 500bhp at the flywheel and I imagine around 450ft lbs of torque.Sounds good to me Now... How do I fit it lol. ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:47
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eliotrw
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Post #164
Haha I know right? Crazy.... looks like mabz doesn't have to worry about the 270hp on his lowboost________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:49
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phillipm
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Post #165
ML5T bellhousing from the turbo models, should bolt straight on IIRC________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:53
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eliotrw
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Post #166
This car is going to be so f**king awesome.....________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 18:56
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phillipm
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Post #167
...for 10 seconds...________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 19:03
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birk
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Post #168
So from my research, I need a later gearbox and a turbo bell housing so it fits the xu block.Surely I could just use the ML5T box, or is it not as sime as that? Cheers eliotrw, I hope it's good when I eventually Finnish it. Phill - shut it ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 19:03
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phillipm
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Post #169
Might wanna check the gear ratios, I think some of the Citreon models have higher final drives if you need more legs.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 19:06
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bigbadbowen
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Post #170
Did the crank get balanced along with the flywheel and crank pulley ? just out of interest or do you not need to bother doing that on turbo lumps ? |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 19:24
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birk
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Post #171
I haven't had the flywheel balanced, I never had a problem with the previous engine with same spec Am I right in thinking the 2.0l 8v turbo runs an ml5 gearbox? With cables and hydraulic clutch on some cars. Surely I could just get one of these and the ratios And strength in comparison to a Hdi box be ok? ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 20:02
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birk
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Post #172
And would I benefit from an ml6 box?________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 20:03
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eliotrw
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Post #173
I think the ratios are in the first link somewhere________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 20:16
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eliotrw
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Post #174
I think the ratios are in the first link somewhere________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 20:16
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birk
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Post #175
Ratios seem ok to me on the 406 8v turbo box, I just hope its strong enough.________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 8th Aug 2012 at 20:29
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