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jsoulman

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Post #51
Very nice, good work! My rallye needs some attention like this to be honest. I would like to hand her over to you so you can work your magic.
Posted 15th Jun 2010 at 18:06
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Post #52
daveyboy wrote:
They may be standard cams, the lairier they are the rounder nose on them for longer duration Wink


yes as ryan has stated below we come to the conclusion that they are standard camshafts (although they do have a different number stamped in the end to my other cams) that may just be normal im not 100% sure.

to be honest at the moment ryan knows alot more info about these engines than me as he is building an engine himself and has found out alot of info along the way.

i will be doing alot of research myself now as im keeping this rallye and going down the s/c route.

i will keep the thread updated as i go through the conversion. will be one long thread the time ive finished.

also cheers for the comments everyone.

richard.

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Posted 16th Jun 2010 at 04:19
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Post #53
Heres a few pics of some 297 degree cams ror comparisson Wink














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Posted 16th Jun 2010 at 04:41
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hi, yes you can see from the pics that mine are nowhere near as flat as them on the top of the camshaft lobe.

to be honest it common sense that the flatter/wider the end of the lobe on the camshaft the longer it should hold the valve open giving better gains. but for some reason that camshaft just looked alot different to my others and with all the work done to the head i thought that they may of had a regrind.

them cams and head look good though should do the job when all back together.

cheers for the info again.

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Posted 16th Jun 2010 at 04:57
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They may well be reground for more lift or a different ramp angle, Peugeot Dave had some Pug Performance mild cams in his head when he stripped it for rebuilding and his lobes were pretty pointy too as I recall. Just because the duration is short they might open faster or close more slowly depending on how they were ground, added to the fact you say they have an odd number stamped on them they could well have been re-profiled at some point Smile

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 05:31
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Post #56
Looking lovely Richard. Engine bay looks really sexy. I'm glad someone on the forum has decided to save her.

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 14:48
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Post #57
Superb transformation. At the end of this, you need to simply post a before and after photo. That will sell this car.

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 21:29
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Post #58
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They may well be reground for more lift or a different ramp angle, Peugeot Dave had some Pug Performance mild cams in his head when he stripped it for rebuilding and his lobes were pretty pointy too as I recall. Just because the duration is short they might open faster or close more slowly depending on how they were ground, added to the fact you say they have an odd number stamped on them they could well have been re-profiled at some point Smile


hi, thanks for the info. well ive built it back uop now so i guess im not going to find out anytime soon. but it would be nice if they are.

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 23:15
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kit wrote:
Looking lovely Richard. Engine bay looks really sexy. I'm glad someone on the forum has decided to save her.


hi, thats for the comments.

yes re paint a few bits of the engine has really freshed up the engine bay. all she needs now is a nice shiny supercharger.

thanks richard.

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 23:19
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phil19gti wrote:
Superb transformation. At the end of this, you need to simply post a before and after photo. That will sell this car.


hi, again thanks for the comments.

im keeping the rallye now and im going to supercharge it and pretty much fully restore her so it will hopefully be mint.

thanks richard.

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 23:21
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pugplus! wrote:
phil19gti wrote:
Superb transformation. At the end of this, you need to simply post a before and after photo. That will sell this car.


hi, again thanks for the comments.

im keeping the rallye now and im going to supercharge it and pretty much fully restore her so it will hopefully be mint.

thanks richard.


I was thinking that despite the effort that had gone in there was no way you could recoup the expense of this magnificent restoration and turn a profit. Well done on a top job, I would want to keep it as well after ploughing that much care and attention into it.

Enjoy it mate, the car is a peach Smile

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Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 00:01
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as ive now decided to keep my rallye and supercharge it im going balls out on the car. im going to try get it as clean as possible do a semi restoration job on her.

ive started sanding/grinding back all the bad parts underneath. she looks a little sad underneath in the pics at the moment but when it is all done and treated and re seam sealed she will hopefully look mint.

here are some pics:





















a few with primer just to cover the bare metal





she will be fully painted underneath all brackets will be sand blasted and re painted. im also going to fully rebuild the rear beam sand blast it and paint it to look like new. new heat shields gear rods all new bolts new braided brake lines etc etc

i will update the pics with my progress.

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Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 00:16
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daveyboy wrote:
pugplus! wrote:
phil19gti wrote:
Superb transformation. At the end of this, you need to simply post a before and after photo. That will sell this car.


hi, again thanks for the comments.

im keeping the rallye now and im going to supercharge it and pretty much fully restore her so it will hopefully be mint.

thanks richard.


I was thinking that despite the effort that had gone in there was no way you could recoup the expense of this magnificent restoration and turn a profit. Well done on a top job, I would want to keep it as well after ploughing that much care and attention into it.

Enjoy it mate, the car is a peach Smile


hi, to be honest despite all the work i put into her the car still owes me less that what its worth but as ive been going through it and the car has been coming together ive started liking it more and more.

also ive never had a 306 gti-6/rallye on the road for myself so i quite liked the idea. also like the sound of supercharging her.

i cant wait until it is done now but its not going to be anytime soon as i know i will get carried away with it as i always do and ill spend hours on it until its pretty much perfect for me.

thanks again for the comments.

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Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 00:25
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You will love it when you have charged it mate Yes

Another charged red rallye to the fold Smile

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Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 01:24
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Fantastic work mate, glad you decided to save it and not break it Thumbs up

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Posted 19th Jun 2010 at 04:00
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You will love it when you have charged it mate Yes

Another charged red rallye to the fold Smile


hi, i hopeso as its going to cost a fair bit to charge her but im sure ill be pleased with it when its done.

team: s/c red rallye

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Posted 23rd Jun 2010 at 03:00
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Fantastic work mate, glad you decided to save it and not break it Thumbs up


hi cheers for the comments.

this car was way to good to break.

thanks richard.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2010 at 03:01
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update:

i fully stripped down a beam i had here a couple of days ago ready to be blasted painted and rebuilt.

my blaster and glass bead turned up today so i thought i would give it ago and see how the parts come up.

the wheels first.

BEFORE:


AFTER:




they have come up lovely the glass beam totally removed all the brake dust etc ready to be primed and painted.

rear beam.

BEAM TOTALY STRIPPED:



RADIUS ARMS.

BEFORE:



AFTER:





BRAKE PIPE BRACKETS BEFORE:





AFTER:



BRAKE COMPENSATOR BEFORE:



AFTER:






and a little pic of me with my home made sandblasting suit: DONT LAUGH LOL



all parts have come up pretty well for the first basting session i will go over them all again.

also they all need to be fully treated with bilt hammer products and primed and painted should hopefully look like new when its done.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2010 at 03:13
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Post #69
Looks bob on, been wanting to look into sandblasting myself.

Have you rented the machine?

Thanks,

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Posted 23rd Jun 2010 at 03:29
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306matt wrote:
Looks bob on, been wanting to look into sandblasting myself.

Have you rented the machine?

Thanks,

Matt


hi matt, i bought the little gun i have in my hand in the pic. its ok but to be honest its a bit of a pain as when you tip it up to blast some parts it does not come out the best and also when it gets low and you tip it up nothing comes out. so i just ordered a good 10 gallon sand blaster wit the feed at the bottom so i should be able to blast in any direction. (should be alot better) but the gun does the job if you only want to do little bits as you can see from the pics.

if you want to clean parts up on your car the i would recommend it to anyone they will clean up anything.

you can also use it on the car body.im also going to fully bead blast underneath my car to strip of all the service rust before i repaint it.

thanks for the comments aswell she is coming on slowly.

cheers.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2010 at 03:39
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UPDATE!

after bead blasting the parts the other day i was not 100% happy with them as the blaster i bought was not really up to the job so i bought a professional sand blaster.

the difference is unreal here are some pics:

main tube before:




after:




rear beam mounts:




heat shield before:




after:




disc gaurds before:



after:





i also went over the radius arms, brake brackets and compensator again.

pics:






they have all come up like new. some of the parts will be painted before they are fitted but all the brackets and compensator will just be lacquered to try and stop them from rusting again.

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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 01:44
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Can you get the disc guards off without taking the calipers off as my mate can do this at work and mine are really rusted, but cba to take the brakes apart again.

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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 14:06
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Think i need one of those blasting tools, they have come up great Thumbs up

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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 03:46
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Same blasting gun as mine, work well but horrible to use, that stuff get everywhere.

Looking good fella.

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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 04:00
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Can you get the disc guards off without taking the calipers off as my mate can do this at work and mine are really rusted, but cba to take the brakes apart again.


hi, if you jack the back of your car up you should be able to get underneath and get to the bolts to just take the gaurds off.

thanks richard.

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