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oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk

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I am looking at getting a rear beam refurb and was thinking of changing the dampers at the same time as no idea how long they have been on the car.

What do people think of these, my car is road use only really with maybe an occasional trackday.

These Gaz Golds:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-205-306-309-Gaz-adjustable-rear-shocks-/191974861219?hash=item2cb297e9a3:m:mlXoA4IYa9-fyYNMjnkgRmw

Or these competition Gaz golds, worth the extra £50? Will the ride be too hard do you think?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191919616514?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

They are about £100 cheaper than b6's and thought a few members here had them fitted?

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 09:36
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Think day666 swore by 205 Tarmac dampers when his car was mainly a road car think it's in his project thread and they were recommended by miles if I remember correctly

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 10:28
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A friend of mine had Gaz Golds on his Focus RS mk2. He didn't rate them at all well - corrosion was a big issue IIRC. To be honest if you're going for road use the Bilstein B8 front dampers and 205 rears should do.

The other option is to replace with genuine Pug parts. You'd be surprised how much of a transformation replacing the knackered old Pug parts with new can make. Granted it's not necessarily the cheapest method but given the stock handling & ride was raved about back in the day it could be worth your while, especially as it's primarily a road car.

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 11:05
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What you plan to run on the front of the car is relevant to what would be good on the rear.

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 11:42
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oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk

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Ah okay maybe the gaz golds arn't the best then if they are gonna rust to bits...

I wasn't planning on upgrading the front just yet, was hoping to get the back done then sort the front at a later date.

Was probably going to go for bilstein b8's on the front with 30mm eibach springs as seems like a pretty tried and tested solution. But havn't thought too much into it. Maybe I should just get the b12 kit for 500 was just trying to split the cost up really...

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 12:55
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Msg Damien (day666) he,ll tell you what he was running

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 14:38
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Don't bother with Gaz. Imho, s**te!

Mainly road, I'd go bilstein b6, as I tend to recommend these with b8s and eibach on the front

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 14:53
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B6 ALL THE WAY
Granted there more expensive but get the part number and search about youll get a discount for sure
Thay will last longer and work properly for the duration
You wont regret it !!!

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 15:29
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The Bilstein 206 challenge dampers are only £150 a pair

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 17:22
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Cjwatson27 wrote:
Msg Damien (day666) he,ll tell you what he was running


Thank you m8 ...I took my advice off Jord294 who knows his stuff Thumbs up
I believe the advice I was given was spot on .....my £3k suspension now is better but not £3k better ...so unless your going on the track stay with what I had Bilsteins ...totally amazing but get fronts also or your wasting your dosh ....

Buy Bilstein B6 group n tarmac rears amazing & comfortable on the road & much better than standard B6s ...also 21mm torsion bars off 306 estates or VTS & use standard ARB ...don't upgrade for road !
& Bilstein B8 fronts with Eibach springs 30mm drop can't beat that all round ...Thumbs up
Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 17:30
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Just for info Gaz Golds are no longer gold, they're now a black finish which is said to offer better corrosion resistance - however it doesn't look that's what your eBay link is actually selling and it's true that the gold finish doesn't last long.

Has anyone got a part no. on the B6 group N dampers - or is that what B6 is?

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 18:54
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welshpug!

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the group n or a are not B6, B6 is the standard fast road stuff.

there's many different specs too, 306 group A are much higher damping rate than 205 for example, but are intended for much bigger bars.

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 18:59
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I believe these are what we are talking about:

http://www.peterlloydrallying.co.uk/competition-peugeot-suspension?product_id=890

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 20:00
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welshpug!

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naah, 2313's you want.

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Posted 29th Sep 2016 at 23:02
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So are these the ones i'm looking for?

https://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tuning/peugeot/peugeot-205/suspension/peugeot-205-bilstein-group-a-tarmac-rear-dampers.html

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Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 09:37
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oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
So are these the ones i'm looking for?

https://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tuning/peugeot/peugeot-205/suspension/peugeot-205-bilstein-group-a-tarmac-rear-dampers.html


That's Group A what I'm running bit harsh for the road .... you want group N cheaperones
Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 12:58
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welshpug! wrote:
naah, 2313's you want.


Not for the general road Mei ...I've got them brill for the Track
Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 13:23
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barrym wrote:
I believe these are what we are talking about:

http://www.peterlloydrallying.co.uk/competition-peugeot-suspension?product_id=890



Had these before Group A .....amazing with 21 tbars

Group A better with 23 TBs
Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 13:25
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welshpug!

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i dont find them harsh at all, a bit under damped for a heavier car tbh.

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Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 13:10
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watching this thread as the back damper are the only thing left to consider on mine

but all im collecting here is part no's atm

306
Bilstein B8 Front Left Damper

1 x Bilstein B8 Damper - 22-247308 (mono tube)

Bilstein B8 Front Right Damper

1 x Bilstein B8 Damper - 22-247315 (mono tube)

Bilstein B8 Rear Right/Left Damper

1 x Bilstein B6 / B8 Damper - 24-020749 (B36-2074) (mono tube)



205
Bilstein Group A tarmac rear Right/Left damper

1 x Bilstein Group A - 24-023139 (B46-2313)

Bilstein Group N tarmac rear Right/Left damper (challenge spec)

1 x Bilstein Motorsport Damper - 24-010382

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Pro-Kit Springs*
1 x Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - E7011-120
Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 13:14
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Day666

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welshpug! wrote:
i dont find them harsh at all, a bit under damped for a heavier car tbh.


If you go to bumpy Combe as often as I have you wouldn't say that & my car wasent stripped like now when I first had Group N & group A
I can't see after paying nearly double if there's much difference?

Miles who's a Bilstein dealer said he's been told the same ?
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Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 13:31
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welshpug!

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there's quite a difference down a welsh lane which is far bumpier than an airfield Wink

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Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 14:20
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oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk

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Tbh goup A's being twice the price as N's, I think I will go for N's gotta be better than OEM anyway. And it is mainly a road car at the end of the day Smile thanks everyone for their advice!

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Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 15:32
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oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
Tbh goup A's being twice the price as N's, I think I will go for N's gotta be better than OEM anyway. And it is mainly a road car at the end of the day Smile thanks everyone for their advice!


You won't be disappointed & get a pair of 21 torsion Bars fitted Thumbs up
Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 16:13
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As an alternative to the Bilstein kits Koni Yellows are good as well.

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Posted 30th Sep 2016 at 18:45
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