Post #26
I've always aimed for 100 and I get that pretty consistently with the 16 row oil cooler. That's with Fuchs Titan Pro S 5W40 oil________________________________________
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 demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 11th Nov 2015 at 23:20
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm  Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Oil temp isn't the issue here. Last two engines grenaded in the same way. First didn't have oil cooler, second did. Yet both blew the bottom end. First one was old and smoked a bit anyway. Second was relatively fresh.That engine needs to come apart Luke to figure it out. I suspect it's blown a ring or two. Why, is another matter. Whatever has failed pressurised the sump for it to blow all the oil out of the dipstick tube or down the exhaust. For that to happen, its got to have come up a cylinder past the oil control ring. A compression test should tell you ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 11th Nov 2015 at 23:28
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #28
barrym wrote: eddy_gti6 wrote: demondriverdan wrote: Should definitely have an oil cooler for a track car. If not and your oil temps are getting high, that could be the problem. I have never used an oil cooler on track before and never had any issues with oil temp. Really? What sort of oil temps do you see on tracK? 15minute sessions at croft in my rallye barely seen around 90, and my old Astor on open pit lane didn't see much more than that. And I drive them hard on the road too with no oil temp problems. ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Nov 2015 at 00:13
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #29
my old engine regularly saw 125 on the dash gauge on hard driving but that had a faulty oil take off plate for the cooleroil temp didnt kill this engine with bearing failure with that problem fixed ive not seen 100 on the new engine |
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Posted 12th Nov 2015 at 09:03
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Mine saw 125° at brandshatch in a 20mins session and that was with a 13 row cooler and thermostatic plate ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 12th Nov 2015 at 11:30
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #31
track work u need a 19 row 235mm cooler________________________________________ |
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Posted 13th Nov 2015 at 14:44
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Twangy
Senior User  Location: heswall Registered: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 623 Status: Offline |
Post #32
my suggestion on this is compression test and strip the engine to see what has caused problem ,youll soon see the problem what caused this ________________________________________ wayne mcardle |
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Posted 13th Nov 2015 at 15:05
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #33
fatlapit wrote: Being turbo'd are you not running higher combustion temps thus requiring a 19 row? As demondriverdan said his n/a racing car is fine on a 16.track work u need a 19 row 235mm cooler ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 13th Nov 2015 at 20:41
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #34
I think most track type cars regardless of induction type run the biggest cooler they can utilise.________________________________________ |
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Posted 13th Nov 2015 at 22:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #35
I was using a 13 row and had the same temps as you on track Aaron. A 19 row solved the issue though.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 09:35
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro  Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #36
I believe this is a 13 row? (I just counted the lines lol) and I got 130+ On track without it (one session)And never over 100 now regardless of how hard I drive it or temps generally on the day  |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 11:19
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #37
16 row here   |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 12:21
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,639 Status: Offline |
Post #38
My old setup. 2x13 row 235mm coolers. Couldnt get temps above 100c even in 30+c weather conditions. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 13:01
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Row row row your boat........________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 13:47
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,639 Status: Offline |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 14:22
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martinh
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bideford Registered: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1,274 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Looking at those pictures of the oil coolers what is the correct way to fit them, with the pipes coming in the top or the bottom? |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 16:23
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #42
martinh wrote: Looking at those pictures of the oil coolers what is the correct way to fit them, with the pipes coming in the top or the bottom? i always wondered this i never found a definat answer pipes top no airlocks in the cooler maybe! pipes bottom easier to drain oil from cooler maybe! anyone?? |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 17:07
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Pipes in bottom, easier to change oil, no old oil left in coolers.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 14th Nov 2015 at 19:16
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Mine is mounted vertically so sorts both issues ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 15th Nov 2015 at 07:51
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