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jamiek_uk2000

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Post #1
Where do people bolt the handbrake side of the harnesses to? Everywhere else is easy but can't suss out this little issue.

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 16:41
bigbadbowen

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Post #2
Drill a hole behind the handbrake cables
Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 17:28
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #3
Ah right, what you use then? A bolt and flat plate underneath?

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 18:03
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Post #4
a harness captive nut plate.

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 18:05
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #5
I see. Two ordered from the bay

Better than the M10 Nut and square plate washer I was going to rob from work...

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 18:10
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #6
Since I'm here, I've gone to fit the harness over the roll cage bar but both ends of the harness are sewn into a loop so I cannot undo it to lap it over the harness bar.

If I undo the stitching and then get the end sewn over so it's like a normal harness is this acceptable? MOT wise and track day wise?

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 18:16
bigbadbowen

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Post #7
Is there no harness buckles ?
Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 18:42
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #8
There are the standard bolt to the floor type buckles on there but I would rather lap it over the harness bar. Otherwise I'll have to go for the clip on bolt type thingamybob. That's the technical term for them anyway

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 18:47
adam b

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Post #9
Get a buckle to thread it through. Sewing it up wont suffice at however many tons of force you'll create on it

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 19:47
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #10
Yeah thats what I mean, the rear part of the harness is a loop so I can't undo it like you would a normal harness. Am I ok to just cut the existing stitching so I can run it through a buckle like a normal harness would. I was going to stitch the end so it doesn't look a mess

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 19:50
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um, what? pitchers!

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 20:17
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #12
I want to do as shown on here http://www.securon.co.uk/fitting/extras/fiaharnessfitting.htm (can't remember how to do a clicky any more)

But the rear strap cannot be undone as it is stitched back onto itself after the bracket, so can I cut the stitching?

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Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 20:24
dangti6

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If you buy cheap eyelet harnesses you can't convert them to roll cage loop ones as far as I know.

It's the ones that you buy as cage loops that you can thread through a buckle.

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  • Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 20:40
    jamiek_uk2000

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    Post #14
    I see. What are my options then. Can I bolt the harness to where the original back seat belts were?

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    Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 20:44
    dangti6

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    I'd be inclined to buy new harnesses and sell the ones you have.

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  • Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 20:56
    jamiek_uk2000

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    Post #16
    That may work out. Anyone want some Sabelt three point harnesses......

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    Posted 4th Aug 2014 at 21:07
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    Post #17
    jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
    That may work out. Anyone want some Sabelt three point harnesses......


    No I value my crown jewels

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    Posted 5th Aug 2014 at 00:30
    dangti6

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    buzzbrightyear wrote:
    jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
    That may work out. Anyone want some Sabelt three point harnesses......


    No I value my crown jewels


    Fail.

    Left - right - rear from a V

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  • Posted 5th Aug 2014 at 07:57
    jamiek_uk2000

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    dangti6 wrote:
    buzzbrightyear wrote:
    jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
    That may work out. Anyone want some Sabelt three point harnesses......


    No I value my crown jewels


    Fail.


    Left - right - rear from a V


    I was wondering what he was on about. They are the same to sit in as 4 point, the two chest straps join behind the seat so only one bolt point

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    Posted 5th Aug 2014 at 08:19
    dangti6

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    Ignore Buzz Wink

    You'll not hear from him again until he asks you in 3 years how you got on LOL

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    buzzbrightyear

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    Post #21
    dangti6 wrote:
    Ignore Buzz Wink

    You'll not hear from him again until he asks you in 3 years how you got on LOL


    LOL

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    Posted 5th Aug 2014 at 10:20
    jamiek_uk2000

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    Another question, do I have to weld the captive nut on the underside of the car?

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    Posted 6th Aug 2014 at 19:54
    welshpug!

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    Post #23
    nope Smile

    does make fitting the bolts easier if you tack it though.

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    Posted 6th Aug 2014 at 20:02
    demondriverdan

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    Post #24
    On the race car we drilled a hole behind the handbrake cables then put in welded a plate in.

    In this photo, near the top left, you can see a circular indentation in the metal work. We drilled a hole there:



    Then got a plate like this: http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/heavy-duty-harness-fixing-plate-3mm and weld it in with the nut inside the hole

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    Posted 6th Aug 2014 at 20:03
    jamiek_uk2000

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    Yeah I was thinking that, but I haven't got a welding set. Gripfill to the rescue! Superman

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