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Post #26
Wow never seen that amount of rust on oneNo . How come you never took it back to where it was first tested?Dunno


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Posted 11th Sep 2014 at 18:55
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Post #27
I took it to a pug main dealer when it was first tested as it was near to my mums house so I could simply walk there

The other garage is actually nearer to my house.
When fixing the bits on the first fail Sheet I noticed a few things that were missed by the pug garage and I tend to trust the garage nearer to me. Bearing in mind I wasn't too impressed with pugs mot and I was out of my retest period.. I decided I would take it to the other garage. I'd rather a safe car that has been gone over with a fine tooth comb then one that has passed a shonky mot!

It's booked in for a local restoration place tomorrow to have the welding done. I have seen pictures of their work and admire their attention to detail, also I can trust they won't do mot patch style repairs and will make a good job of it

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Posted 11th Sep 2014 at 19:24
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Post #28
Wowzer. That is pretty damn rusty. It would appear these Rallye's really are begining to rot now. The GTI's seem to hold up better? Respect for putting the effort in to save it!

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Posted 12th Sep 2014 at 22:23
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Post #29
naah, I've seen bloody rotten gti's too.

worst one was Blaze as it happens LOL

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Posted 12th Sep 2014 at 22:25
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Post #30
Blended in nicely then! Is it just me, or do the Rallyes rust worse? They are terrible around the front chassis legs. Were the GTI's better rustproofed? One of the reasons I got into pugs to start with was because they didnt rust like Fords/ Vauxhall's, begining to doubt it now!

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Posted 12th Sep 2014 at 22:33
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Post #31
No difference in the corrosion treatments, just the conditions they've been through since and if cretibs have jacked them up wrong.

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Posted 12th Sep 2014 at 22:48
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Post #32
When you look at E46 BMWs and other early-2000s cars the 306 rustproofing holds up pretty well. It's just that after 15 years of abuse any chinks in the armour are starting to show. As Welshpug says, the only rust holes in mine were where idiots had damaged it with a jack - the stiffeners behind the font wheels and a dented driver's side sill.

I also found the failing underseal in places on the chassis legs, was doing an excellent job of keeping the metal wet. I chiseled all loose underseal off and dealt to the rust.

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Posted 23rd Sep 2014 at 22:26
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Post #33
Depends if it's lived it's life by the coast. The sea air loves compounding the rust issue

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Posted 23rd Sep 2014 at 22:14
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Post #34
Well got a call from the restoration company and it's ready to be picked up!

Exciting times

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Posted 27th Sep 2014 at 22:41
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Post #35
Yeah......I thought mine was bad lol be good to see the repair when done. Keep it up be plenty more to do tho

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Posted 27th Sep 2014 at 23:41
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Post #36
The guy is a genius




I haven't got a picture of the front as I don't want to remove the wheel to see it
But from what I can see it looks good!

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Posted 29th Sep 2014 at 16:23
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Post #37
Did he put anything inside the sills? If not, my recommendation would be to remove the interior quarter trim panels, get a can of Bilt Hamber Electrox zinc primer spray and use a wax injection lance to spray it inside the sills to cover any bare metal/welds on the inside. Then follow that up with a liberal covering of Bilt Hamber S-50 cavity wax. Youll ned to remove the sound insulation inside the quarter panels. I cut mine down and glued/taped them to the inside of the trim panels to still provide a modicum of sound deadening.

Here's one I prepared earlier...



And both sides have sound deadening that just pulls out...



but the bottom of it sits right in the bottom of the sill and has been keeping the moisture in as the bottom sill seams aren't sealed and water/salt can get in...



and you can see the salt in there but the rust is minor luckily...





both sills through upper and lower rivet holes as well as inside using a grommet hole into the other side of the centre sill panel near where the foam is visible inside the car (above)...



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Posted 29th Sep 2014 at 18:03
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Wow what a transformation looks realy good

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Posted 29th Sep 2014 at 17:58
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Post #39
I'm currently restoring this too
As you can see in the pic im well rehearsed in dynax s50 and rust treatment and removal


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Posted 29th Sep 2014 at 18:10
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Post #40
Update ish

Purchased:
Braided brake lines
Rear callipers
Rear calliper rebuild kit
Caliper paint
Brembo rear discs
Ds2500 rear pads
Brake pad fixing kit

Just need to get some brake fluid, anyone have any suggestions?
And then I should be good to go

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Posted 28th Oct 2014 at 21:50
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af1-gti wrote:
Update ish
Just need to get some brake fluid, anyone have any suggestions?


I use Motul RBF600 but that might be a little overkill for you Dunno Will work fine in everyday situations though, just cheaper options if you only pootle around Yes

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 08:47
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Post #42
i swear this car was found in the bottom of a swap. how one car can be full of so much rust and still be in one peice is beyond me.. its not just the bodywork either! its every single nut, bolt, clamp and fixing!! even the spare wheel clamp was rusted solid! im pretty sure this car has been parked in salt water!

So got on with removing my calliper and used the correct halfords pro brake nut tool as in the past i have rounded these things off...

use the tool and everything rounded anyway....

looks like i need some copper pipe and a flaring tool now! even the clip that holds the flexi pipe by the compensator was stuck solid!

I need to remove the pipe that comes from the compensator to the flexi pipe to replace it. however is it correct that this is infact a 10mm nut, or has it been rounded off?


Can anyone advise on size of brake pipe? im sure its universal but stand to be corrected! Also what size unions/bolts or whatever the professional name for them is
Alan

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:06
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Post #43
every pug fitting is 11mm AF even if it has a 12mm thread, apart from the female M12 joiner.

one or two of the compensator unions are M12.

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:17
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Post #44
cheers welshpug!

actually whilst i have you here and the fact that you are actually a genius and know more about Peugeot then Armand Peugeot himself..

I am looking for the size/partnumber of the torx bolt that holds the fuel pressure regulator in on the 306 hdi. I have checked service box on both the regulator and the pump and cant see the part listed. I need a replacement as i dropped mine

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:36
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Post #45
Whilst sorting my rear brakes I noticed a bit of surface rust in the rear arch.
Decided to take the arch liner out with the plan of cleaning up the surface rust, treating it and giving it a nice spray of primer and bianca

What do I discover?

More rot!!

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 14:09
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Post #46
Guess its time to learn how to weld

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 14:10
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Post #47
So I have been learning how to weld! and have cut out a panel.
In the interim i have also secured some space at a workshop Big grin

Whilst doing the rear brakes im really tempted to do the fronts too!

I have had the rear calipers refurbished but i REALLY want some 310mm brakes up front. Mostly because they look sexy!

I have been driving a 306 hdi as a daily and its served me faultlessly... Im sorely tempted to go stripped out and caged on this car

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 17th Jan 2015 at 21:42
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Post #48
So i found another hole, this time in the rear o/s arch. I decided it was now or never to learn how to weld


So i gave it a go, cut it out, blew a LOT of holes, ruined good metal and generally made a mess of it all! but hey, I did it. I filled in all the little pin pricks and gained a lot of confidence. as you can see i blew bigger holes than the original one! but this was my first ever go welding (apart from on scrap metal.



This is it from the inside with a skim of filler


I also replaced the bit of metal on the bottom



So, Where does that leave me?

To get it on the road I need to:
Fit refurbished calipers
Fit DS2500 rear pads
Fit Brembo rear discs
Run a new brake line from ABS pump to rear of car
Buy a new offside brake cable & fit
replace brake lines under rear of car
Paint and fit rear disc guards

For Piece of mind i need to:
Kill rust in rear wheel arches
Grind rust underneath car & treat
paint rear aches in stonechip & white
Purchase and fit new rear arch liners
Purchase and fit cambelt and waterpump
Purchase and replace offside drive shaft

Slow time things:
Replacement front bumper with black grille
Gearbox oil leak

So in essence a tonne more wedge to spend!!

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 23rd Feb 2015 at 01:09
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Post #49
Wow there is some serious rust on that thing! Obviously someone didnt care about their car in the past!

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Posted 23rd Feb 2015 at 01:21
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Post #50
well, someone cared enough to put spax all round, DS2500 pads up front, a strut brace and it obviously had 17s on at some point.. it has a stack of receipts, but somewhere along the lines it has been unloved.

i have never seen it on a forum anywhere so..
i presume it either crashed into a milk float or ended up on its roof

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 23rd Feb 2015 at 01:47

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