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Flywheels are pined unless you removed it and didn;t refit it? which could be if the engine was rebuilt.

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Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 16:14
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You mean the dowel in the end of the crankshaft Miles?

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Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 16:33
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tony1991

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Yer the dowl was on it so can't be in the wrong place. Then the other end it has the key way and now has a solid pulley. Well see if my mechanic comes back with anything but he is struggling to get it running ATM
Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 16:37
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Just fort of something the engine I had fitted in the car was not the ordinal out of that car was a engine I bought of dcc on here a wile back. Am thinking is the different tooth Cambelt kits relevant to different phase engines so timing isn't right ?
Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 17:44
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You have got a unlocked ecu then ?

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Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 18:00
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I do have an unlocked one in my garage an I tried that but was the same well assuming it's unlocked I got it with the car as a none runner last year an the guy has bought this unlocked ecu to try get it running
Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 18:11
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Think you need to try your unlocked ecu on another gti6 then if it starts then can rule that if not thats your problem

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Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 18:42
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Just been thinking I had another rallye which I have now sold when I had running issues with the car in question before I swapped all my Ecu's. Around an had them all running my old one so think I can rule that out.
Posted 23rd Nov 2013 at 18:48
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Have you the correct ecu with the correct transponder ? And the correct chip ?

Is the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition before you try and start it ?

Posted 27th Nov 2013 at 20:59
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Yer I have fuel pump priming and a spark so don't think it is ecu issue really is strange as have all the right things there to get the engine running I think it may be the timing. Which is down to my mechanic so waiting to here back from him. That's all I can think.
Would throttle position sensor have a impact on starting ?
Posted 27th Nov 2013 at 21:05
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fuel and spark rules out most stuff so personally if it was me i'd be doing a compression test first

is the spark strong? - if no, coil(s)

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Posted 4th Dec 2013 at 22:43
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Simple stuff first, you must have 4 things for an engine to run. Air, compression, spark, fuel.

If you have spark and fuel, try turning it over with the throttle slightly open as the TB is closed on these the ICV does the work and it will rule that out.

I'd then check the quality of the spark with a little in-line spark tester which are pretty cheap to buy, also put a plug in the end of a coil and rest it against something metal, crank it over and see I it's a weak spark or nice strong one.

How long has the car been sat? Any chance of water or condensation in the fuel tank?

Compression test is the next obvious one..... You want fairly even reading accross all 4 cylinders. I forget what a 6 engine should read but I'm sure it must be in a thread here somewhere.

Other than that check all earths and loom connections etc. Are you 100% that your spare crank sensor is good?

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Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 07:52
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tony1991 wrote:
Just fort of something the engine I had fitted in the car was not the ordinal out of that car was a engine I bought of dcc on here a wile back. Am thinking is the different tooth Cambelt kits relevant to different phase engines so timing isn't right ?


Also no this shouldn't make any difference if he timed it up correctly all the slack should have been on the tensioner side before tightening. You can fit either kit to any engine. Personally I prefer the 136 with metal tensioner and idler.

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Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 07:54
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Somewhere around 200psi for a healthy engine.

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Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 13:02
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Thanks for all the advice. I am going to get another look at it Saturday. My mechanic did a compression test not sure what reading he got I will try find out but he said it was fine we have spark I'm pretty sure it was a good spark as well. We have fuel at the injectors not sure whether the pressure is right I'm going to check that on Saturday. The one thing I am kinda thinking the car has been sat a good few months so could do with some fresh fuel
Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 18:43
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if they are old injectors they may be stuck closed ive come across this before swapping engines
Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 19:55
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I have had the rail off an the injectors are all spraying
Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 20:10
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Sounding like a ecu issue, or earth
Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 20:16
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I was thinking that but I have everything to run the car spark and fuel which if the ecu was playing up I don't think I would be getting fuel or spark
Posted 5th Dec 2013 at 20:31
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Bit of an update. Well I got the car back today from my mate. I pump all the old fuel out an put some fresh stuff in. Still had no joy so I fort well I have some spare coils an they will only take 5 mins to change. An well I think that was the main problem. ( although I was getting a spark before) so now I have it running its a bit of Bugger to get running an idle ing. I have a crappy euro car parts icv and lambda and map sensor I'm thinking I should just go to pug an get some genuine ones
Posted 7th Dec 2013 at 18:19
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Post #46
So it's running ? But won't idle ? Get a new genuine idle control valve but not from pug ! You can get originals for much cheaper off the net .

Check the tps is connected correctly and the wires are all ok
Posted 7th Dec 2013 at 18:37
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Yer it is running. It will idle eventually but takes a wile to get it idling. I will check the tps tomorrow. Any idea of where on the web I can get genuine ones from
Posted 7th Dec 2013 at 18:47
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eBay I think bud ?
Posted 7th Dec 2013 at 20:21
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Let her idle and heat up to temp ? Get the fans working ? Unplug the lambda as well
Posted 7th Dec 2013 at 20:27
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Well I had it running for a wile tonight trying to get up to temp to get the fans running but didn't quite get hot enough il try it tommorow.
Quite pleases with the progress today tho was starting to fall out with the car thinking I should never have set eyes on it an stuck with my red one at the time
Posted 7th Dec 2013 at 20:32
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