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mattgti6phase2

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Hi guys just a quick one. Just got underneath the car to examine it prior to its MOT at the end of this month and all looks ok apart from DS wheel has very small left to right movement and PAS wheel has very slight back and forth movement.

I'm guessing if I've spotted this then so will a tester so am i right in think both wheel bearings are f**ked?

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 17:57

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if I remember right pas is balljoint and drive side wheel is wheel bearing from those symptoms.

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:12

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annoying I can't see any movement!

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:23

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you won't but he will. you may be ok how much movement is there?

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:28

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DS is barely noticeable, Pas side is a little worse but again not major.

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:30

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under say 2-3mm?

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:31

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Yes I'd say so.

Pas side you can hear knocking ever so slightly.

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:32

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if you can hear it knock then it'll most likley be a fail so get that balljoint done?

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:37

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So PAS side is ball joint? When I say back and forth movement i meant one hand at the top and one at the bottom of the wheel.

And DS wheel is the bearing? Movement occurs with hand placed at 9 and 3 o'clock?

Pretty annoying as both ball joints are relatively new. DS had a wheel bearing last year and PAS side is on the original wheel bearing iirc.

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 18:56

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Top and bottom (12 and 6) movement is usually bearing or ball joint, you need to see if the hub is moving on the bbj or just the wheel on the hub to determine which one.

Side to side (3 and 9) is usually track rod end

Edit to add if It's a bearing you can usually feel play where ever you grab the wheel

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 19:04

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I'm almost 100% from the symptoms. if the roads are bad nwhere you drive potholes kill balljoints and wheel bearings on the 306. from my experience

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 19:05

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Tbh i can't see the ball joints moving either side. And I get a slight clonk when dry steering to the left Dunno

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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 19:32

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As above, wheel bearing play will be felt anywhere around the wheel.

If its just with hands at 9 and 3 its either track rod, or track rod end, tre play is usaully easy to spot.

You need someone under the car looking for the area of movement regarding balljoint or wheel bearing play.

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Posted 20th Oct 2013 at 15:48

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Matt - I had this only a little ago.

The problem on the passenger side will be the hub nut needing slightly nipping up. Yes

I know they are locked with a cage and pin but they do loosen ever so slightly to cause this 12-6 play...

To get rid of it though, you will need to jack up the car, remove wheel, pin and cage then fit the spare wheel. Drop it back onto the floor. Get someone to put their foot on the brake and in 6th gear and then get a long breaker bar, preferably with a scaffold pole over the end of it and nip the nut up a tiny bit. Your play will be gone, then just put the cage, pin and cyclone back on and you're done. Thumbs up

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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 10:52

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Wouldn't that be over kill though and risk crushing the wheel bearing? I thought that had a torque setting of around 260nm??

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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 15:59

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

Tbh i can't see the ball joints moving either side. And I get a slight clonk when dry steering to the left Dunno

This sounds like balljoint! I had the same on my car

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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 17:53

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

Wouldn't that be over kill though and risk crushing the wheel bearing? I thought that had a torque setting of around 260nm??

Trust me.

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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 22:34

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I will get a 2nd person to press the brakes and let you know of my findings Yes

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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 23:36

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You can always pop over with it and I can take a look mate if need be? Dunno

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Posted 22nd Oct 2013 at 07:15

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stan_306gti6 wrote:

You can always pop over with it and I can take a look mate if need be? Dunno

See if you can swap over bits with his Gti in the garage. It's not like Stan is gonna need it anytime soon! Thumbs up

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You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time

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Posted 22nd Oct 2013 at 07:34

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Very funny. Laugh

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Posted 22nd Oct 2013 at 10:01

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I'll have the charger away before he can blink!!!

Thanks Stan, I'll have a look on Thursday and if I can't spot the problem I'll pop over and we can stand in your garage and I can sit on that beast of bike and pretend I'm going 180mph+ whilst doing motorbike impressions Yes

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Posted 22nd Oct 2013 at 20:26

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

Sounds like a plan bud. LOL

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Posted 22nd Oct 2013 at 22:00

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

Can do the same in his car too Wink

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You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time

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Posted 23rd Oct 2013 at 07:54

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You could with that, that shan't be moving for a very long time...

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Posted 23rd Oct 2013 at 09:09

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