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Super is 8:1________________________________________
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 clen666
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 Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 17:57
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armzsc6
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So standard high boost is what then 9-1? If so then 8.5 isn't that far off surely? May not make optimum power?________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 18:07
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eliotrw
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Post #28
Could make some kind of 400 hp high boost with the super high charger and more torque/reliability?________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 18:10
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eliotrw
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Post #29
I think you would have to use them with a turbo really or do what I said above with a c38________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 18:12
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superchargedblack1997gti6
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Post #30
Or machine them a bit to the right compression ratio! ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 18:19
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #31
It may not be low enough for the usual c38 setup, rich lower the cr for reliability, it's all down to the boost level your running I think, the higher the boost the lower the cr needed, the lower the cr the higher the boost needs to be to make the power.I'm sure these could be used with a c38 but you would need to run a different pulley so your not running as much boost, im not sure how this would work out power wise or reliability wise eg, is rich w still a member here? He never posts anymore ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 18:23
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Takedown
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welshpug! wrote: Std length rods? What size small end pin and small end width? rod lenght: 21 cm theyre 86mm STOCK SIZE small end size pin : 20.00 8.5 is perfect! 8.5 is 95% of what they use as a ratio w.w I dropped the price to a stupid price and now people are interested, ive got a few interested that contacted me through pm. First that pays gets em easy.. im needing these gone or im making ashtrays out of em and im not even smoking  most engine dont need overbore size pistons only a quick honing/cleanup |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 19:47
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superchargedblack1997gti6
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Post #33
this would be fine but not with the c30 charger i think that the comp ratio would compromise off boost drivability!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 19:59
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welshpug!
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Post #34
21 cm?! the block is only 23.5! std rods are 15.8 cm...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 20:16
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deep306
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buzzbrightyear wrote: It may not be low enough for the usual c38 setup, rich lower the cr for reliability, it's all down to the boost level your running I think, the higher the boost the lower the cr needed, the lower the cr the higher the boost needs to be to make the power. I'm sure these could be used with a c38 but you would need to run a different pulley so your not running as much boost, im not sure how this would work out power wise or reliability wise eg, is rich w still a member here? He never posts anymore Or maybe some kind of a restrictor ring as the low boost, but for c38? |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 20:46
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #36
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: this would be fine but not with the c30 charger i think that the comp ratio would compromise off boost drivability! it would be a solid reliable engine tho with a c30, ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 20:52
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superchargedblack1997gti6
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Yes agreed mate but i think it would be like worse than standar till 3000 rpm then a bit flatter than a c30 conversion which to be fair don't think there's much problem with the c30 high boost engines interms of reliability?Deep306 there already is a restriction ring in c38 conversions otherwise the power would be approx 575 bhp ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 21:03
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Takedown
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welshpug! wrote: 21 cm?! the block is only 23.5! std rods are 15.8 cm... How you want me to measure these then? Ill make some pics tomorrow with a measure next to it.. You remember the pic i showed you of these next to what i then thought was a 16v piston and rod.. and you told me it was an 8v...? edit this one..   |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 00:08
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Takedown
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Post #39
buzzbrightyear wrote: It may not be low enough for the usual c38 setup, rich lower the cr for reliability, it's all down to the boost level your running I think, the higher the boost the lower the cr needed, the lower the cr the higher the boost needs to be to make the power. I'm sure these could be used with a c38 but you would need to run a different pulley so your not running as much boost, im not sure how this would work out power wise or reliability wise eg, is rich w still a member here? He never posts anymore These kits come with a f**king basemap on the stock ecu.... go figure! |
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Posted 20th Aug 2013 at 23:49
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bigbadbowen
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Takedown wrote: welshpug! wrote: 21 cm?! the block is only 23.5! std rods are 15.8 cm... How you want me to measure these then? Ill make some pics tomorrow with a measure next to it.. You remember the pic i showed you of these next to what i then thought was a 16v piston and rod.. and you told me it was an 8v...? edit this one.. Middle of little end to middle of big end is rod length bud  |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 00:28
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Takedown
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Post #41
Sorry..... 15.8 it is |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 00:39
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buzzbrightyear
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Post #42
Takedown wrote: buzzbrightyear wrote: It may not be low enough for the usual c38 setup, rich lower the cr for reliability, it's all down to the boost level your running I think, the higher the boost the lower the cr needed, the lower the cr the higher the boost needs to be to make the power. I'm sure these could be used with a c38 but you would need to run a different pulley so your not running as much boost, im not sure how this would work out power wise or reliability wise eg, is rich w still a member here? He never posts anymore These kits come with a f**king basemap on the stock ecu.... go figure! No they dont, the c38 kits use aftermarket management, mine has a dta s60. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 12:06
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Takedown
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Post #43
FYI bigbadowen top piston to where the first ringgroove starts 7mm what stands on the box = BORE : 86 RINGS: 1.00 x 1.20 x 2.75 PIN: 20.00 DATE: 09/04/2013 |
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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 09:47
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hepkem
Junior User  Location: ISTANBUL Registered: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 52 Status: Offline |
Post #44
can these pistons used for throttle body + cams N/A 306 gti engine project ?________________________________________ 1999 Xsara VTS ITB |
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Posted 26th Aug 2013 at 21:32
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eliotrw
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Post #45
Absolutely not.You need high compression ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 26th Aug 2013 at 23:38
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craig903
Regular Location: whitstable Registered: 08 Jul 2013 Posts: 273 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Damn I could do with these, but don't even have a gti6 yetHas nobody downloaded the lynx supercharger fitting guidelines pdf? It states in there when using the C30-94 at full duty of 18-20 psi then they recommend you lowering CR between 8.0:1 – 8.5:1. Just unless anyone doesn't know the pdf contains a complete guide/suggestions on how to fit the supercharger kit. What you need etc. High and low bost. It explains about running different fuel pressures etc. ________________________________________ 208 GTI OwnerTurbo'd '6 project - work in progress |
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Posted 27th Aug 2013 at 15:08
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Takedown
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Post #47
550 shipped... come on guys , these are great...is a complete give away price! 8.5:1 is perfect compression ratio! |
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Posted 27th Aug 2013 at 20:23
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Got some pics of the side of the box at all Paul? Want to be sure they will deff fit an xu10j4rs block e.g rod length is correct and big ends are correct diameter for standard size gti6 crank. I don't want to buy something which will prove useless to me if I were to strip my engine down over the winter and fit these...I have read the fitting guide and it does indeed say 8.0-8.5 :1 comp ratio. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 28th Aug 2013 at 00:53
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superchargedblack1997gti6
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Post #49
Agreed I read it last night too!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 28th Aug 2013 at 16:50
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Takedown
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armzs16 wrote: Got some pics of the side of the box at all Paul? Want to be sure they will deff fit an xu10j4rs block e.g rod length is correct and big ends are correct diameter for standard size gti6 crank. I don't want to buy something which will prove useless to me if I were to strip my engine down over the winter and fit these... I have read the fitting guide and it does indeed say 8.0-8.5 :1 comp ratio. i ordered them for a 2.0 16v 306, and that is what i got    |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 19:23
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