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Author Subject: Rebuild power steering rams
mik

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Has anyone had a power steering ram rebuilt? Mine has a slight leak, wondering what we do now these parts are NLA.

Any knowledge on whether they can be successfully rebuilt, and if so, who could do/has done it?

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Posted 13th Aug 2013 at 22:47
mike rallye

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I also would be intrested to know, as mine is leaking to
Posted 13th Aug 2013 at 22:50
Niall

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http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com

try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time.

I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool!
Posted 13th Aug 2013 at 23:12
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Anyone want a new oneUnsure


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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 21:40
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How much?

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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 21:42
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jord294 wrote:
How much?


Only have one left, I gave more for them than service box suggests, would be looking at £200


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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:14
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Niall wrote:
http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com

try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time.

I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool!


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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:37
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Niall wrote:
http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com

try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time.

I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool!


Any idea of what your friend paid?

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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:44
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marco gti6 wrote:
Niall wrote:
http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com

try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time.

I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool!


And this is what happened to me this morning on my driveway i guess Thumbs down


You sure it's not the pump Marco? The pump is now situated right under the passenger head light on yours, the ram is in the centre of the car by the bulkhead.

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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:47
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Would you not be better just buying second hand when someone breaking one?

I got ne of these 2nd hand for £30 a year ago.

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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:48
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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 23:16
mik

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I saw that. It is really all about risk. A second hand 13 year old one might start leaking a week after you put it in.

For the PITA and labour involved I'd rather put one in that will last a few years.

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Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 17:39
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I think I'd rather spend on 2nd hand first. Then if it does start leaking, have a chat with the guys that repair them.

I know they're NLA, but I reckon they can be repaired cheaper

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Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 17:42
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I'll see if I've got a spare one somewhere to crack apart and have a look.

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Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 17:52
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phillipm wrote:
I'll see if I've got a spare one somewhere to crack apart and have a look.


You've got too much to be getting on with already! Got that rear suspension sorted yet?

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Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 18:10
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Nope. Not even been looked at for ages, too busy with the buggy.

Gotta finish a prototype over winter though as my back beam is getting tired LOL

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Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 18:48
mike rallye

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Just so I understand it correctly, the bit that normally fails on the power steering rack , is the ram which is pictured on that ebay link?
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 18:53
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mike rallye wrote:
Just so I understand it correctly, the bit that normally fails on the power steering rack , is the ram which is pictured on that ebay link?


Yes.

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Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 19:31
mik

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Same as other hydraulic cylinders, the seals get contaminated with dirt, in this case cr@p coming off the road as it is quite low down attached to the subframe, and abrasive dirt particles get on the exposed bit of piston and as the cylinder operates the dirt damages the seal which fails and starts leaking. Or seals just give up over time. The piece of bin liner that supposedly protects the ram clearly doesn't work so well in this case. Mine was torn and hanging off doing no protective action of any kind when I got the car, which had just gone through a nice salty gritty Scottish winter. To rebuild the ram, it is stripped down and if the bore and piston are not pitted or otherwise damaged it can usually be rebuilt with new seals, and will then be as good as new. Some hydraulic cylinders cannot be rebuilt successfully for a variety of reasons. I remember getting a rebuilt clutch slave cyl for an old Type 85 Audi years ago when I lived overseas, was only about £35 IIRC.

I'd rather put a rebuilt one in if it is a proven and successful route like the Audi clutch cyl, rather than paying ££over-the-odds for the last new one in captivity or putting a second hand one of similar age/mileage as the one that just failed and having to do it all over again weeks/months later.

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Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 21:12
Niall

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Has anyone found anywhere that sells a boot (sort of like a cv boot) that is the correct size to go over the ram? Mine doesnt have a cover at all since the old plastic bag was ripped and useless when i replaced the ram. Dont want to destroy another ram!
Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 12:43
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didn't owain find one? or did he make one from something?

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Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 13:34
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0wain improvised with a rubble sack IIRC. That boi has one hell of an imagination.

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  • Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 13:37
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    i thought he went one better and put an airbus a380 wing just over the rack?

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    Niall wrote:
    Has anyone found anywhere that sells a boot (sort of like a cv boot) that is the correct size to go over the ram? Mine doesnt have a cover at all since the old plastic bag was ripped and useless when i replaced the ram. Dont want to destroy another ram!


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