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 jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro  Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,098 Status: Offline |
Post #1
i might just be used to the phase 3 xsi here........but when i go round corners in my 306 etc the fuel gauge likes to vary upto a quarter tank of needle movement. is this normal? i remeber it being kinda like this in my other phase one but nowhere near as much varyance. thanks jim ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
 Posted 2nd Aug 2013 at 19:48
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #2
You need a new fuel sender. There is a built in resistance on the float arm so it can be submerged under the fuel for a while to take into account corners and bumps etc. I had it on my old 106 and the arm lost all its resistance so even used to move up and down if you pulled up hard and the fuel splashed about in the tank lol. |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2013 at 19:55
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #3
 slow down ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2013 at 19:56
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Phase one tanks are not baffled like phase 2/3 |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2013 at 21:11
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Mine is exactly the same, but its not the sensor at fault; if the tank is below 1/4 full it sometimes cuts out as well.  ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2013 at 21:18
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,098 Status: Offline |
Post #6
i see.... so its a combination of placebo effect from coming from a phase 3 baffled tank 306 to my phase 1 unbaffled tank.and my float arm resistance being poop. probably the second more so. i noticed my fuel light was cutting out on the first day of usuage like your 24seven but it seeme to of stopped now, being sat for a while hasnt helped it. dont suppose i can swap them over? from a phase 3 xsi into my phase 1 gti? i think i remember hearing theres differences between the two? ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 01:12
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #7
When I met Farmer one time he was about to put a P3 fuel tank into a P1 and he seemed to know what he was doing, can't be sure it ever worked though. I'll admit though Jimmy I'm a bit disappointed you're going with the easy option of changing the tank and not instead creating some kind of nuclear-powered anti-innertia device. I was anticipating a build thread. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 06:29
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: When I met Farmer one time he was about to put a P3 fuel tank into a P1 and he seemed to know what he was doing, can't be sure it ever worked though. I'll admit though Jimmy I'm a bit disappointed you're going with the easy option of changing the tank and not instead creating some kind of nuclear-powered anti-innertia device. I was anticipating a build thread. Or maybe mount the tank on some kind of gimbal system so that whatever direction g-force affects the tank from it will effectively stay level, +1 on being slightly let down by Jimmy. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 07:08
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Something like this?________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 07:09
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Drop the tank down and add some spring fixings.________________________________________  |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 08:04
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,098 Status: Offline |
Post #11
that is a badass pool table.but still, if i can swap the sender/pump over rather than the whole tank id rather do that. will they swap or will i be fuel tanking it ? ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 13:44
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Sender won't help, it's the tank.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 13:47
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Use a dipstick down the filler neck to gauge how much fuel is left  ________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 13:50
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Or just fill the tank with foam.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 14:03
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,098 Status: Offline |
Post #15
im not to bothered about it being bafflesless..... the problem wasnt anywhere near as bad in my other phase 1.as said by niall i think the resistance in my float arm has gone. hence me asking if i can pikey a replacement unit from my phase 3 xsi. ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 14:11
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Expanding foam  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 14:12
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,098 Status: Offline |
Post #17
and good shout phill......that foam will most probably be a lot easier than a tank swap.how much you reacon ill need? ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 14:13
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Err, 60 litres? It's not cheap for the proper stuff though. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 14:20
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Don't buy the cheapo stuff, it gets broken down by petrol in a short time and plays havoc with fuel pumps and filters.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 14:38
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #20
daveyboy wrote: Don't buy the cheapo stuff, it gets broken down by petrol in a short time and plays havoc with fuel pumps and filters. I was thinking this, don't use builders foam ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 15:39
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #21
What makes me laugh is the 1.4 fuel pump has baffles in the mouting caddy, but the phase 1 xu pumps don't. Not sure what pug were smoking that day.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 15:59
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #22
What you need________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2013 at 19:13
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,098 Status: Offline |
Post #23
argh!!!! if only id of removed the fuel pump from my 1.4 phase one before i scrapped it a few years ago : )but still..... ill ask again, does anyone know if can i swap the fuel sender float arm over (things under the round black plastic panels under my seats) from my phase 3 xsi onto my gti? cheers jim ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 4th Aug 2013 at 00:27
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