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Author Subject: 106 S16 Turbo... OH MY GOD!!!!
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Post #51
This just reminded me about 1/4mile times. When I was into my MG's this was the man in the know.

He holds the records for 1/4 Miles in front wheel drive cars.

His 800 bhp ZR does it in 10.23 and that obviously is set up for records.

His 550 bhp Maestro Maestro does it in 11.81 and as above.

But obviously everyones an expert! To me this 106 set up on the day with tires has a chance at taking the Maestro's record.

Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 09:20
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I'd live to see the high high boost supercharged go down the drag strip, it would be a laugh to see.

If mine and jokers alleged 410bhp cars can only do 13.1 quarter mile and the alleged 450bhp ones must deffinatley be a whole sec quicker lol

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 14:28
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Birk, thats a pretty crappy time for 400+ bhp

My 306 with the homemade turbokit, did 13.3 @ 174 kmpu, and that was on 260BHP and on the crappiest craptires available = WANLI

I know Andy, and this is with his 600BHP Civic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5J51JPGcQE

Will dive this season under the 10secs, and yes its his dailydriven grocerygetting car
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 14:48
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Post #54
This is why Birk said alleged, he doesn't believe that the high boost cars make the claimed figures from what I recall from a different thread.

Threads like this always go the same way, it's the same as the old pug1off 205, some people (usually Welshpug) will say it's crap and should be better because someone else's car will do it in whatever time blah blah but the fact is as has been said cars like this 106 aren't built to run a quarter mile and to launch well, they are built to be fun and it looks like they succeeded.

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 15:03
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Post #55
I don't give a f**k what mine does 1/4 mile in, if I was to keep trying it I doubt my clutch would last long.

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 15:05
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if a 260bhp 306 can do the 1/4 in the same time as a 400bhp 306 , then something is obviously wrong , LOL
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 16:13
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Post #57
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if a 260bhp 306 can do the 1/4 in the same time as a 400bhp 306 , then something is obviously wrong , LOL

To be honest mine was much easier to launch when it was low boost, and I doubt there's much in it up to 60, however now when the moment the wheels suddenly gain traction happens a low boost would never make me feel as much g force as it does now, if mine was a second quicker over low boost on a 1/4 mile id say that's excellent, it doesn't matter how much power is there it's how it puts it down on the Tarmac that really matters.

Look at a car built for the drag strip, nothing like a road/track or race car, look at the size of the rear wheels they have (rwd)

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 17:30
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Post #58
This thread has made my day and made me laugh however im even more confused now!

Takedown you have said that a 380hp 106 did 12 seconds dead but a 410hp 306 with a 13.1 seconds 1/4 is crappy, power to weight ratio doesn't make it that bad really surely? and the 260hp 306 makes the 106 look slow if it did it in 13.1 also Dunno

The gti6 gearbox is s**t for 1/4 mile times as is the supercharged set up!

Im not agreeing or disagreeing with peoples comments as every car is different, its all down to the spec of the car and ability of the driver!

At the end of the day its night and im 100% sure about that but that's about it
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 17:40
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Post #59
It's day over here Razz

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 17:55
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But at the end of it, it will be.....
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 18:00
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The other thing people forget is the Rotrex achieves its Torque way up in the rev range rather than lowdown like a turbo! When I get mine built ill take it to the pod to see what time I can get but for fun not as a willy waving contest! I think that the 106 in this thread looks awesome fun and hopefully my superhighboost will be too. Think about the torque of a 450bhp turbo it's torque will be approx 400lbft at a guess
450bhp rotrex makes only 330lbft.
Turbo torque is what makes them fast and as Pugheaven and others have said the gearbox and charger setup is not suited to drag use!

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 18:08
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This is true Ollie.

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 18:20
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At least we got that sorted lol

End of topic end of thread end of my laughter for the day
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 18:22
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Post #64
Just to throw a spanner in the works, I know a guy who has a 550whp civic and he has just done a 10.4 quarter mile on slicks. Now that's fast in my eyes.

Takedown. Yes I know it's poo, it was on road tyres mind, but consistent and minimal wheelspins, kinda backs up my theory.

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 18:41
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Post #65
not really as you haven't taken in to account the lack of torque of the supercharger set up.... You could have 1000hp but its useless with out torque

Say for example you had 2 400hp 306's one turbo'd and one supercharged the turbo one would always win due to the torque it produces and at the revs it produces it at

As we have mentioned in other threads, not many people have had readings from other rolling roads to prove that chip wizard (Wayne) is giving false readings just to make people happy with the 400hp that they have been told they have, however I would assume that a man with such a good rep throughout loads of car forums would not risk his name or business just to make the owners of lynx supercharger kits happy.

Now I have a bit more cash to burn I MIGHT get my high boost and super high boost on the rollers when I get back..... But again I will take the readings with a pinch of salt as no rolling road will give the same readings no matter how precise they claim there rollers are...

Im sure im not the only one but I couldn't care less about figures and care more about how it feels when im driving it and having a blast against more expensive "fast cars"
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 20:15
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I understand Birk, but when you take in perspective that my 306 with the old setup on mapping 1, on around 260bhp did that time... then endspeed was quite impressive, but i think its down to the modded gearbox.

1 and 2 are from a standard S16, 3 ,4,5 are from a HDI, it runs almost the 1/4 in 3rd gear, 3rd gear is alot longer now then the normal S16/Gti 3rd, and is great for boosted applications.

I think theres the difference.


@ Tesstuff, i think you need to read a bit better, car was on the crappiest tires available in the universe and in FULL TRIM!


I also dont give that much about 1/4 mile times, but when any car does around 6 secs 60-120 its damn impressive.

Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 20:20
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watch the vid on you tube of a high boost supercharged 306 going from 0-140 they aint slow

60-100 must be around 5 seconds, I can get my high boost to go from 0-100 within 10 seconds and off the clock (140) within 15 seconds

0-60 isn't that impressive but it will still wipe the smile of most "fast cars" owners
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 20:29
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I'm not disputing the torque figures though, it's obvious a car with x amount of Bhp and little but a 3rd of that is torque, isn't going to be the best at dragging. But my initial rant a couple months ago wasn't about the quarter mile times, it's just that this thread was easy enough to tag onto with my thoughts. Smile

Don't get me wrong, the conversions are great, I have embarrassed a few super cars with my old setup, but with the lack of torque, it just seems pointless now, been there, got the t-shirt etc

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 20:53
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Great threadThumbs up

1/4 mile is for homos anyhowWink

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Its a car forum, thats what happens. Just don't talk to him about paint... fukinhell...Crazy


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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 21:20
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GAY!
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 22:34
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just timed 60-100 in my 306 hdi, took 5.5 seconds Unsure to be fair, the turbo kick is insane and it was torque steering across the street but it was late so not doing it again now

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Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 23:16
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GAYS
Posted 13th Jul 2013 at 23:44
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what's wrong with being gay?

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Posted 14th Jul 2013 at 00:17
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Post #74
Takedown wrote:
GAYS


It's a proven stat that gays have a quicker reaction time on the 1/4 mile drag strip. Something to do with all the rubber that's laid down in the launch area.....

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Posted 14th Jul 2013 at 08:00
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matt evans wrote:
Takedown wrote:
GAYS


It's a proven stat that gays have a quicker reaction time on the 1/4 mile drag strip. Something to do with all the rubber that's laid down in the launch area.....



You know your stuff! LOL
Posted 14th Jul 2013 at 08:01

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