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Chris28190

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My cat is broken and I need a replacement. Non of that is the issue but searching on here I see many recommend to get a genuine part over an aftermarket.

I've been quoted 120 notes with what I believe 2 year warranty for a new aftermarket piece.

Is there actually any downside to getting that fitted? Even if it lasts 3/4 years at that price I don't think I can moan. Seems far cheaper than anywhere else.

Or do I buy a good 2nd hand cat off here and find a place to fit it? Major downside for me is no warranty.

Any advice? Cheers Cool Thumbs up

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Good second hand one could still go tomorrow.But I'd probably rather do that than buy a pattern.

Fit it yourself and save some pennies. It's not a hard job.

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    pebbles167

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    Genuine cats are much better on emissions, and tend to last longer even if they are already many years old. I'm sure you could get a decent second hand one for under £100.

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 13:55
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    And yes like Dan said, massively easy job. Get a 13mm spanner or socket/ratchet and a few small adjustables and away you go.

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 13:56
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    I don't have the right tools to get the car lifted safely to do it, otherwise I would. Does a pattern part make the car feel worse or is it just the fact they brake a lot easier?

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 13:57
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    pebbles167

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    They are just not as good as standard on emissions or reliability. You don't need to lift the car much. Just jack it, or if you don't like that idea, just park one side on the kerb. Wink

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 14:00
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    dangti6

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    Pester a friend to borrow some axle stands and a jack.

    I'd almost go as far as to say instead of paying a garage £70 to swap one. Take the £70 and buy a pair of axle stands and a jack for future use.

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    ^^^ what he said LOL

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    Fair enough I guess genuine it is. Anyone selling one? LOL

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 14:07
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    Get a post up in the wanted section, failing that try findapart.com. they will definitely have the part, but they might as for a small fortune though.

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    I've got a good genuine one for sale or a magnex decat as well

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 14:12
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    Decat for the NOISE!! Big grin

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    £70 for a decat to be fitted, that is madness! I paid £25 for mine to be changed, which is reasonable enough. I went and did a quick job and by the time I came back it was done, I did my job earned the money and then paid someone to do theirs. I think it's due to the fact that I hate fitting exhausts though

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 14:40
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    I fit my exhaust in an hour, that included cutting the box, cutting a pipe down, hammer clamping it and welding it. Oh yes I'm bad Wink

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    Posted 7th May 2013 at 14:45
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    jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
    £70 for a decat to be fitted, that is madness! I paid £25 for mine to be changed, which is reasonable enough. I went and did a quick job and by the time I came back it was done, I did my job earned the money and then paid someone to do theirs. I think it's due to the fact that I hate fitting exhausts though


    £70 was a guess based on what is often a common hourly rate for smaller garages. I know if I owned a garage I'd charge an hours labour as a minimum for a job requiring more than 10 minutes ramp space.

    I'm sure we'd all like to do lots of jobs for 'drinks', but at the end of the day that ramp space needs to be filled by paying customers for bigger jobs, not taken up doing small time. Obviously you may find a quite garage that are otherwise not earning when they are empty who would probably do it for half. But remember - vat is 20% of a job and rates etc don't come cheap.

    More and more I see companies stating 'Minimum invoice £X' It's sometimes just not worth doing a tiny job if it hinders the bigger picture.


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    Same here, aftermarket isnt worth getting, my old one was newish and started to do the deadly rattle lol.

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    t3ora wrote:
    I've got a good genuine one for sale or a magnex decat as well


    How much we talking?

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    Chris28190 wrote:
    t3ora wrote:
    I've got a good genuine one for sale or a magnex decat as well


    How much we talking?


    30 quid for the cat and 60 quid for the decat
    Both still have lamba sensors still in them
    I might be able to fit them as well if there is time at work

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    t3ora, you have a pm.

    Even though you've all said go genuine and I was convinced, I have had a think and I still can't see the issue with the pattern. If it does go faulty soon it does have a 2 year warranty with it so I can take it straight back to be fixed. Saves messing around myself and if I got a genuine cat and it broke I'd have to pay for another again.

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    Chris - You would save so much money if you invested in a jack and a couple of axle stands for this job and future use. They are so handy for carrying out small and large jobs and will end up saving you a fortune, especially combined with the FAQs on here. Yes

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    Post #21
    Now i may have smked a little but for some reason when reading these:



    Chris28190 wrote:
    My cat is broken

    pebbles167 wrote:
    Genuine cats are much better on emissions, and tend to last longer even if they are already many years old. I'm sure you could get a decent second hand one for under £100.


    I'm surprised no one went with something like this, very cheap brand new... Cats Whistle

    p.s the forum sure is a lot quieter indeed LOL

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    Haha I did think about putting a pic up f some nice kittens and a scraggly "aftermarket" cat, bit the guy genuinely seemed like he needed advice. LOL

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