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 dendle89
Senior User  Location: Cardiff Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 827 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Right, im looking at getting a V6, and im just wondering how it possible to pass an emissions test as the emissions will be so much higher compared to the 2.0.Will a new working 2.0L cat be enough for the emission or should i look to get two cats welded into the exhaust system ? could i get a better cat ? ________________________________________ Team 6 Cylinders |
 Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 16:15
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Or a de-cat and a dodgy MOT  ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 16:24
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dendle89
Senior User Location: Cardiff Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 827 Status: Offline |
Post #3
dont really want a dodgy MOT, but any supercharged lads or heavily moded 306 had any problems with emissions ?________________________________________ Team 6 Cylinders |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 17:59
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #4
If you engine swap properly so recorded on log book then emissions rules will be for a v6 |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:05
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dendle89
Senior User Location: Cardiff Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 827 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Yea im aware of this, i've considered doing this as the insurance isn't much different anymore________________________________________ Team 6 Cylinders |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #6
it will pass just fine with the o.e 306 cat.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:12
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dendle89
Senior User Location: Cardiff Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 827 Status: Offline |
Post #7
welshpug! wrote: it will pass just fine with the o.e 306 cat. Cheers mate thats all i wanted to know  ________________________________________ Team 6 Cylinders |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:19
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #8
dendle89 wrote: Yea im aware of this, i've considered doing this as the insurance isn't much different anymore The one I've got isn't recorded on the log book yet as I havnt had it back but It's insured through greenlight for ~£350 fully comp with the engine swap declared. Oddly they seem to insure modified cars for less than if it was standard  ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:21
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
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ryangti6 wrote: dendle89 wrote: Yea im aware of this, i've considered doing this as the insurance isn't much different anymore The one I've got isn't recorded on the log book yet as I havnt had it back but It's insured through greenlight for ~£350 fully comp with the engine swap declared. Oddly they seem to insure modified cars for less than if it was standard They probably go by the insurance group the donor car was. ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:35
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
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How much will it affect the tax if the emissions are higher then? Does the same apply to supercharged cars since the emissions are through the roof?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:35
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Because they are pre 2001 tax is unaffected as far as I know as they are in the high group anyway________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:40
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I just checked Autodata, 100 ppm HC and 0.3% CO for both engines.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 18:53
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #13
What ryangti6 said is correct all above a 2.0 is the same________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3  |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 19:11
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Interesting subject, i wonder how many tuned N/A, boosted peugeots are actually emission compliant |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 21:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #15
All down to the mapper, if he's a lazy bugger, probably not.I know I will do my best to get a cornish map, and probably use even less fuel than standard. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 22:15
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #16
welshpug! wrote: All down to the mapper, if he's a lazy bugger, probably not. I know I will do my best to get a cornish map, and probably use even less fuel than standard. i heard that tuned n/a RS engines (within reason) actually give better mpg on a run. |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 22:22
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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yep, I went down to Saltash with my mate DCC and used less fuel on the way back on bodies than it did on the run down on standard inlet, even with a few warp 5 tunnel runs.One of Sandy's highest spec TU5 engines returned about 42 mpg IIRC on a run back from mapping, that's a 230 Dyno bhp 225 ish in car BHP from a true 1600. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 22:37
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #18
No need to worry or have a CAT from what I have been told, as the engine was not fitted originally the emission test will default on to a 3.5% CO when you change the engine type on the emissions recorder ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 22:40
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Mine was fine on emissions, well once it had a working lambda________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 23:12
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #20
miles wrote: No need to worry or have a CAT from what I have been told, as the engine was not fitted originally the emission test will default on to a 3.5% CO when you change the engine type on the emissions recorder Pretty sure that's not the case. From testers guide: Vehicles Fitted with a differnt engine Test according to which is older, engine or vehicle. e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes. Note: The onus is on the vehicle presenter to prove engine age. ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 16th Apr 2013 at 23:15
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #21
how exactly would we prove the age? most testers i know would tell you to feck off if you presented them with paperwork/engine numbers from a donor car. then again there are testers who are willing to shove the lambda probe up another cars exhaust pipe to get a pass |
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Posted 17th Apr 2013 at 22:40
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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T99PUG wrote: how exactly would we prove the age? most testers i know would tell you to feck off if you presented them with paperwork/engine numbers from a donor car. then again there are testers who are willing to shove the lambda probe up another cars exhaust pipe to get a pass It's there in black and white in the testers manual,so they couldn't refuse if you've got the required proof If they did just ask them for the VOSA number for complaints and they would soon change there tune I'm sure  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 18th Apr 2013 at 09:46
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #23
coskev wrote: miles wrote: No need to worry or have a CAT from what I have been told, as the engine was not fitted originally the emission test will default on to a 3.5% CO when you change the engine type on the emissions recorder Pretty sure that's not the case. From testers guide: Vehicles Fitted with a differnt engine Test according to which is older, engine or vehicle. e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes. Note: The onus is on the vehicle presenter to prove engine age. Thats right, which ever is oldest and usually its the shell. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 18th Apr 2013 at 10:23
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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beez_neez_gt wrote: coskev wrote: miles wrote: No need to worry or have a CAT from what I have been told, as the engine was not fitted originally the emission test will default on to a 3.5% CO when you change the engine type on the emissions recorder Pretty sure that's not the case. From testers guide: Vehicles Fitted with a differnt engine Test according to which is older, engine or vehicle. e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes. Note: The onus is on the vehicle presenter to prove engine age. Thats right, which ever is oldest and usually its the shell. Yeah usually,unless your building a kit car like my m8 did last year using a 1989 Uno TurboIE eng,he had some trouble getting paperwork to prove the age of that eng for IVA test  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 18th Apr 2013 at 11:49
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Would the engines V5 be enough, its just the XU10 engine isnt the best at keeping the engine code and a V5 could be any engine.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 18th Apr 2013 at 12:46
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