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Just wanted to know would a be 3 5 speed fit straight in my 306 gti 6 or is there any modifications to make this fit ie clutch gear linkages shafts or speedo thanks
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 scottycollard
Junior User  Location: Totnes Registered: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 85 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 19:32
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
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It fits, i'm running one on my Rallye.No special mods. ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 19:43
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scottycollard
Junior User Location: Totnes Registered: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 85 Status: Offline |
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Is it worth it in the end |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 23:12
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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scottycollard wrote: Is it worth it in the end I would say not on a standard Gti6 eng  Had one fitted in my 309 I converted to Gti6 eng,and once I drove a Gti6 with 6 speed I realised how much nicer/better geared they are  Not a sniff I would ever go to a VTS box  Why are you thinking of fitting one?  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 10:29
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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To balance things out (for now, until the rest of the forum disagrees with me), I MUCH preferred the 5 speed VTS box in both the Xsara VTS as standard and when I had the RFS engine in my 309 GTi. These engines have a fairly broad power band and in a car that tops out at 140mph it really doesn't need 6 gears to keep the engine on song.Even out on a spirited drive the ratios are too close in my '6, so for the rest of the time when I'm driving normally they're incredibly annoying! I often find myself skipping gears just because it's easier than changing all the funking time! ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 16:05
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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I really can't see where you are coming from with this business of the gear ratios being "annoying". They are one of the *best* things about the car IMO. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 16:34
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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They're just too close and annoyingly so when the 5 speed box is spot on for this engine. It's a marketing gimmick, otherwise the Xsara would probably have the same gearbox as well. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 17:28
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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24seven wrote: They're just too close and annoyingly so when the 5 speed box is spot on for this engine. It's a marketing gimmick, otherwise the Xsara would probably have the same gearbox as well. The 5 speed is not perfect for this engine, the revs drop too far between shifts and takes the engine out of it's powerband. It's not awful but if you want to make rapid progress and aren't a lazy big girls blouse who doesn't want to shift so often then it's the 6 speed box that wins everytime. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 18:06
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: 24seven wrote: They're just too close and annoyingly so when the 5 speed box is spot on for this engine. It's a marketing gimmick, otherwise the Xsara would probably have the same gearbox as well. The 5 speed is not perfect for this engine, the revs drop too far between shifts and takes the engine out of it's powerband. It's not awful but if you want to make rapid progress and aren't a lazy big girls blouse who doesn't want to shift so often then it's the 6 speed box that wins everytime. As above Just couldn't be arsed writing it all!  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 18:16
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: 24seven wrote: They're just too close and annoyingly so when the 5 speed box is spot on for this engine. It's a marketing gimmick, otherwise the Xsara would probably have the same gearbox as well. The 5 speed is not perfect for this engine, the revs drop too far between shifts and takes the engine out of it's powerband. It's not awful but if you want to make rapid progress and aren't a lazy big girls blouse who doesn't want to shift so often then it's the 6 speed box that wins everytime. If you're dropping out of the out of the ideal range when you change gear with the 5 speed box, you're shifting too early. I promise you.  ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 19:17
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Where's that popcorn smiley gone... ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 21:30
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Horses for courses Steven, but I think you're wrong.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 22:42
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: Horses for courses Steven, but I think you're wrong. +1 on that opinion. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 20th Mar 2013 at 22:44
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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Steven?  ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 21st Mar 2013 at 00:52
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Guy then, I've been mis reading your forum name for years  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 21st Mar 2013 at 13:39
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,282 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: Gay then, I've been mis reading your forum name for years EFA |
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Posted 21st Mar 2013 at 13:41
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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Someone else decided my name was Steven too. Soulman I think. I forget. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 21st Mar 2013 at 14:04
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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LOL @ Jim, what a plonker! ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 21st Mar 2013 at 14:35
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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who's jim? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Mar 2013 at 20:35
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: who's jim? Daveyboy.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 21st Mar 2013 at 23:49
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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I think you mean Dave ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2013 at 00:07
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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I think you'll find it's "Best Price Dave"Strange parents. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2013 at 00:12
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Get stuffed baldy.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2013 at 00:24
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