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| Author | Subject: Turning my 6 into a Track Car on a budget. Help please. |
 Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #51
welshpug! wrote: compressor 8 kilos, condenser 3.6 kilos, dryer 0.66 kilo, evaporator 1.5 kilo, pipes + Gas + control units, around 20.  I weighed each of the following parts before I posted, as I have all of these in the garage at the moment: Rich E has attached the following image: ________________________________________ Rich |
 Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 20:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #52
not me, I have a zx that's even lighter  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 20:37
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #53
you f**king geek 3.6 kilos for the condenser was from Nissens btw, as was the dryer, and I weighed the compressor myself. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 20:39
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #54
The weights from the Nissens catalog are marked as gross, and as such include packaging.welshpug! wrote: you f**king geek Perhaps, but at least now there's an accurate figure, rather than just wild guesses  Considering the evaporator won't come out without removing the dash, and the rear pipes are a ball-ache to remove without taking the engine out you're only looking at just under 10kg of easily removable weight, rather than the 30kg that you claimed. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 20:40
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #55
I have a nice light front panel here with lots of metal cut off it to save you a bit more weight ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 20:53
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ben8s8
Regular  Location: Not these parts Registered: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 403 Status: Offline |
Post #56
Dash removal! urghh maybe I'll remove the AC at the same time I replace the heater matrix.... probably never. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 21:02
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #57
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 21:04
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #58
Where are you based? Club MSV do taster sessions in the evening for £25 for 20 mins. First thing I did when I bought the track car was to take it on one of these to give the car a run and see how it went.Turned out it understeered a lot so I've started acquiring parts to sort it out  ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 21:12
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rob_humphrey
Regular  Location: St Austell Registered: 16 Sep 2011 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #59
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 21:13
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arigti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Wiltshire Registered: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 2,365 Status: Offline |
Post #60
Think Mei has a point Then: Tyres/supension/brakes/strip out etc I wouldn't bother with a cage myself as my name isn't "Simon Norris"  ________________________________________ I Live for the 306 TEAM CHERRY PINK RALLYE 2008 BMW ///M 320d |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 16:37
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,639 Status: Offline |
Post #61
A cage does more than just protect you in a crash, a proper one makes a hell of a lot of difference to the chassis rigidity.  ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 16:45
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heliosphan
Senior User  Location: UK Registered: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 949 Status: Offline |
Post #62
Nothing like 7 tons of steel tubing to counteract all your weight saving measures. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 16:48
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ben8s8
Regular Location: Not these parts Registered: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 403 Status: Offline |
Post #63
I'd like to get a new steering wheel and drivers bucket seat to accompany all the stripping and tyres. Went to a local car shop today and they said most manufacturers have stopped making bosses for the steering wheels on 306's because you are no longer allowed to remove the airbag bulb and they check for that. Is this true? How can I keep it Road legal with an aftermarket wheel which means no airbag? I'm also not sure about the rules for bucket seats. Anyone know? Thanks. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 17:39
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #64
Ebay sell them and just take out the bulb, if its not there they cant check it! ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 17:40
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #65
They airbag thing changed, it's only an advisory now and not a failure. Could change in the future though. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 17:41
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #66
eddy_gti6 wrote: Ebay sell them and just take out the bulb, if its not there they cant check it! I'm afraid they can, light has to come on then go off to be a pass  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 17:41
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #67
I thought if all air bags have been removed and no air bag light is there then they cant be checked as there is nothing there anyway?________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 18:05
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #68
Yup same as spare wheel, if its in the car and bald it's a fail but if you take it out and don't have one at all it's a pass!Same with abs and airbags |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 18:25
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ben8s8
Regular Location: Not these parts Registered: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 403 Status: Offline |
Post #69
Ok so removing the bulb should be easy enough. What about the rules for buckets seats/Harnesses? |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 18:38
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #70
Bucket seats are fine, leave the original seatbelts in as well and then the harnesses don't have to be tested. The difficulty is that some of these rules say that if the car had it as standard, it has to work. Luckily some MOT testers know the rules and so (like mine) pass the ABS because it was completely and safely removed; just removing the bulb will fail if there's still an ABS system installed. Currently it's okay for the airbags not to work if you've completely removed the entire system, and an advisory if it is there but doesn't work. That could well change though. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 19:54
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #71
More than likely to change. Everything else seems to change so watch out ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 20:46
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astragsi237
Regular  Location: Chatham Registered: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 414 Status: Offline |
Post #72
Just my 2p! After doing the whole Track day thing, Myself & a few mates got to know what worked & what didn't on 2 track slag 306's.Don't waste your money fannying around with expensive R888's,Search eBay for a set of secondhand Michelin slicks.We bought our set for £100, pound for pound they where the best mod done to the cars. Obviously you'll need another set of cyclones or Pro Race 1.2's & they'll provide you with far more grip than any road legal tyre. Don't bother installing an oil cooler unless you want to go full out on an open pit lane day staying on track for hours on end! The correct grade engine oil is all you'll need not 10w 40  Like mentioned before don't waste money on trying to gain bhp.Better off learning to drive the car properly! we spent close to £2k on our car but it's a hell of an experience you won't forget if done properly ________________________________________ Phase 1 bianca white GTi-6:SOLDPhase 2 blaze yellow d-turbo:Off to scrap heaven Phase 2.5 platinum silver GTi-6:Just purchased :-D |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 22:29
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eddiebeano
Senior User  Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 715 Status: Offline |
Post #73
astragsi237 wrote: Just my 2p! After doing the whole Track day thing, Myself & a few mates got to know what worked & what didn't on 2 track slag 306's. Don't waste your money fannying around with expensive R888's,Search eBay for a set of secondhand Michelin slicks.We bought our set for £100, pound for pound they where the best mod done to the cars unless youre doing open pit, will there be enough chance to get heat into full slicks, especially the rears? I'm tempted as a step up from the a048s but read slicks go in heat cycles and after about 8 they lose a hell of a lot of their grip  ________________________________________ team: Stealth |
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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 00:27
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astragsi237
Regular Location: Chatham Registered: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 414 Status: Offline |
Post #74
We ran two cars around Cadwell park (which is a very demanding circuit) a few years back on slicks staying out for 25minutes at a time & they never lost grip! We where passing low boost six's with ease.If I was in the position to do track days again slicks & brake pads would be first on my list________________________________________ Phase 1 bianca white GTi-6:SOLDPhase 2 blaze yellow d-turbo:Off to scrap heaven Phase 2.5 platinum silver GTi-6:Just purchased :-D |
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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 09:51
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mjt4130
Regular  Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #75
So which size slicks for C5 steelialloys? And how do you know how worn they are if used? Im guessing they have some sort of wear indicators in them |
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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 22:48
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