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 jammapic
Senior User  Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #51
Valve float? Do you get that with solid lifters?Also - where do the revs drop when you change? That's right... right in peak power! ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
 Posted 26th Feb 2013 at 17:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #52
yeah, well beyond where you need it, right where it drops off  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Feb 2013 at 18:02
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #53
Peak power on mine is made at 6880rpm according to the dyno.. So I change at 7750rpm and end up at 6250rpm(ish) so I've got a nice few revs of peak power before I change and get peak power again...Plus, don't forget - transmission losses are less if you can stay in lower gears longer... JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 26th Feb 2013 at 18:05
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #54
jammapic wrote: Valve float? Do you get that with solid lifters? Also - where do the revs drop when you change? That's right... right in peak power! Valve float is a byproduct of high revs and standard valve springs. Basically they are too soft to keep the valve firmly in contact with the follower/lifter. But I would'nt worry too much about it at stock rpm settings. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 26th Feb 2013 at 18:42
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #55
Right, well - everything is now 100% working :-) yey!!!Also, fitted my much lighter wheels, sticky tyres and I have to say, it is so so so much better to drive in every way, so I'm selling the challengers if anyone wants them? Also, had it on the laser alignment kit the other day, and set up the geometry as per the BTCC Peugeot 306's and it feels great... As well as that, finally fitted some black masks and it looks mean! Can't wait to get some heat in these tyres now! JP  ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 10th Mar 2013 at 19:32
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #56
Looking nice coskev wrote: jammapic wrote: For now, yes. Along with throttle bodies. Not just using a 'map' I'm having rstuning put me one of their ecu's on. I've got an engine on a stand in the garage which I am building for boost.... JP What ecu is that? And how much?  jammapic wrote: Also, had it on the laser alignment kit the other day, and set up the geometry as per the BTCC Peugeot 306's and it feels great... Only the tracking is adjustable though? Surely BTCC 306's would have run fully adjustable front and rear susp? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 10th Mar 2013 at 20:27
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #57
Not rear. Just adjustable camber, castor, toe etc from the data I got given________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 10th Mar 2013 at 20:29
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro  Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
Post #58
jammapic wrote: Not rear. Just adjustable camber, castor, toe etc from the data I got given Willing to share? ________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
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Posted 10th Mar 2013 at 21:27
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #59
Course. Drop me a PM________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 10th Mar 2013 at 21:31
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #60
Given it a quick (and I mean QUICK, like 15 mins!) clean before it goes and does it's thing this weekend on a road rally... can't wait!     No knocks, no clunks, no pulls, working well... how long will this last? Lol! JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 13th Mar 2013 at 17:51
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #61
OK... so long overdue thread update:Took it on the road rally, was great fun, if a little cold and wet. The girlfriend thought this:   Then a couple of weeks later, did Curborough sprint day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKxU12knmiM http://youtu.be/WRVGePOdApU Put the car back under it's cover outside, booked a load of track days this year, and then bought this:    That brings us up to date I think!  JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 2nd May 2013 at 10:58
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #62
and my favourite picture: ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 2nd May 2013 at 10:59
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #63
jammapic wrote: Also, had it on the laser alignment kit the other day, and set up the geometry as per the BTCC Peugeot 306's and it feels great.. Im Not trying to be a clever c**t but from your pictures you're not running anything even close to what btcc cars ran?! What uprights, wishbones, top mounts are you using to achieve the adjustability? Geo for which car, driver, circuit and tyres? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 2nd May 2013 at 20:27
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jimmyrallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: portsmouth Registered: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 3,144 Status: Offline |
Post #64
The gti looks great fella looks clean .. Your number plate looks like its saying gimp ________________________________________ "Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off." |
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Posted 2nd May 2013 at 20:33
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #65
I'm running the dry weather geo setup for slicks with the corner bias taken out, as best I can with the kit I've got. I've got no adjustability on the rear, other than ride heigh and damping, but I've got toe, castor, camber and obviously SAI to an extent on the front. It's never going to be perfect but it's pretty good. Drives much better with a fair bit of toe out on if nothing else. JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 3rd May 2013 at 07:54
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #66
jammapic wrote: That picture alone tells me that you're not running anything like the required negative camber for radial slicks!? And why you'd want to run that geo on the road is beyond me! From personal experience stacks of negative camber and toe out on the road is s**t and destroys tyres. Why so vauge with your reply? How much castor and camber do you rekon you've actually got on and how? Car geometry is down to personal preference so there isn't ever going to be 1 setup for a '306 on slicks'. If think someone's been pulling your leg. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 3rd May 2013 at 17:50
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #67
No there isn,t you are right but I've taken the btcc geo and used bits of it to build my own which works well for me on this car. It's based around the btcc specs, but like I said before, within the remit of us mere mortals. I agree, I'm not as extreme as the full specs, but I've taken some of the pointers and gone with what works for them. With a few tweaks, it works well on my car! ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 3rd May 2013 at 20:22
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #68
A couple of mods:Firstly, new torsion bars. 23.5mm jobbies from a group buy a while back, and reset with more ride height as it was too low before:  I fitted it ages ago but never wrote on here, oil cooler is on:  and finally, stripped some wiring and stuff out of the inside to lose a little more weight. ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 15th May 2013 at 16:23
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #69
Do listen to Allenallen - he knows his stuff on that topic. You aren't running anywhere near -5.5 odd on the front for slicks, -4 odd for semi, the -2 or so on the rear or the toe out on the rear. If you speak to him nicely he can machine your trailing arms to give you more camber and toe. Same as what Martin, Denis and Ash run on their cars.So its basically a slightly more aggressive road setup that won't work that well on slicks. Should be ok on the R888s or whatever is on there. On a lighter note it looks a very tidy car ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 15th May 2013 at 22:37
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #70
Seems to work ok, so I'm happy for now I need to speak to AllanAllen about rotrex chargers, as I've just bought one and need to nail it on the side of my motor... JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 15th May 2013 at 22:42
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #71
Couple of vids on track at Mallory Park:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0SAs7GBESc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY0fsA-sQEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiO2zIJnPEk ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 20th May 2013 at 15:50
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fordygti
Seasoned Pro  Location: Walpole St Andrew Registered: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 1,257 Status: Offline |
Post #72
Did you buy the lynx kit? If so there I step ny step.fitting instructions.on their website. ________________________________________ 98 onyx black 306 Rallye53 Nissan Primastar silver (work horse) 58 black Volvo c30 sport |
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Posted 20th May 2013 at 16:51
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jammapic
Senior User Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #73
Nah. Got myself an Eaton Roots charger, will mock it up and fit that.________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 27th May 2013 at 18:44
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #74
H(EAT)ON |
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Posted 27th May 2013 at 20:19
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7057sam
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stowmarket,Suffolk Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,080 Status: Offline |
Post #75
I've heard that eatons make a awesome song  James do you brembo squal like a motherfuker  mine do.________________________________________ Rallye build: 11 November 1998 - a WednesdayTeam rallye,built for track ----Click this if you like rallyes Rallye dead  Secret Team Astor... |
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Posted 27th May 2013 at 21:10
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