i wash my dog with the Karcher

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This needs to stop immediately.










Before the point of this thread gets watered down.

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Can you imagine if you caught a bollock with the jet from a pressure washer?

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Pretty much sums it up Stan. We dont have a ban in our area (we steal our water from the welsh after they have dropped dead sheep and p**sed in it), yet folks still look at me like im a kitten killer when im out washing all of the cars on the drive.

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If they really want to save water start cutting the supply to houses, say like 150 litres pay day per house, once you've used it it cuts off til midnight when you get a new supply for the next day.

It may sound stupid and none of us would want that, but they rationed food during the war when there was a shortage on that...

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Correct, because you're already using very little water. Same as people who don't earn as much aren't taxed as much. You're saying people who don't wash their cars should have to go without showers if you can't pressure wash your driveway?



They *are* saying that. That's *exactly* what they're saying. The do encourage people not to leave taps running, and to have showers instead of baths. And as long as people do that, there'll be no need to force anyone to do anything.



Okay, and on a purely technical level how would you do that? The water supplies to roads come in, feed fire hydrants (which would no longer work) then go into peoples houses (sometimes through a meter). Some houses have a water tank, some do not.

If you had a tank and they turned off your water supply you'd still have a hundred litres of water to use overnight, which would just refill the next day when the supply was reconnected.

The reality is though that you can't automatically isolate the supply to one house, so you'd have to have a team of people isolate every road in the region every night, then back again in the morning. In doing so, you'd drain all the water out of the highest house immediately and the lowest house in the street would have a practically infinite supply.

Everyone's plumbing system then empties itself due to gravity, leaving massive airlocks, so every house would need to book a plumber for every morning to get rid of them. Toilets wouldn't be flushable, so everyone would have raw sewage sat in their houses overnight.

If they wanted to automate this, they'd have to dig up literally every road in the country and bury electronic shut-off valves for each house, and wire them into some kind of centralised system. You're probably looking in the tens of billions of pounds to implement and decades before it was done.

OR

People could just be sensible and not use water they don't need to and it'll all be fine in a few weeks

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Right...

Are you actually likening drinking water to petrol? You seem to be forgetting that a hose pipe ban has nothing to do with money. It's not a big oil company milking the world, it's not drivers wanting better pensions, it's about a big hole in the ground with not much water in it. That's it. It's that simple. No amount of money is going to put more water in that hole.

How would you bill people for hose use? Seeing as they've already said they don't check up on people, they're just hoping people will be sensible. Do you think I should have to pay more for my drinking water so you can clean your car every ten minutes?

Water bills are stupidly low compared with everything else, as they should be. I pay something like £12 a month for unlimited water, say £150 a year. On that, they make a tiny profit. If they doubled my bill, would that pay for digging up the bit of road outside my house and checking for leaks? No, not even close. What if they quadrupled it? Nope. Even if they put up water prices tenfold it wouldn't even come close to the costs involved in fixing leaking pipes.

I think there's some flawed logic in using tax money to pay unemployed people hoping they'll then pay tax, I'm not sure there are any winners there

Plus you'll find most unemployed people are not workmen, so would be no good at digging up roads and laying water pipes.

I really think people are thinking too far into hose pipe bans. It's just the water company saying look, it hasn't rained much, so we don't have much water. Please don't use more than is necessary, and everything will be fine. There's no need to up prices, there's no need to panic, and if everyone pulls together and uses as little as they can there'll be no need for any water shortages.

That's literally it. No conspiracy, no ulterior motives, just a hole in the ground with not much water in it. If all companies worked like that, the world would be a far better place.

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Liar. You'd have nothing left.

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H2WOOOOW this is an in depth thread on water!

I've got to hand it to Owain, he's probably correct.

The fact is I'm just generally annoyed about how much this country has become a nanny state telling us what we can and can't do it's ridiculous.
If I pay for water by the cubic metre, then I wish to be able to use as much or as little as I like then pay for my usage at the end.

As I said near the beginning of this thread, if we are treated reasonably I would return the favour but the fact they have put a blanket ban down on hosepipes so I can't use it, I will just find another way around it which in turn will probably use more water than the hosepipe.

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But that's just it Owain, they're not telling us to "be careful" I would have no problem with that at all.

They are saying there is a "ban" on using that, i.e. you *cannot* use it. That *is* telling us what to do (or what not to do in this case ).

If they treated us like adults, I would respond by making sure I used less and being responsible for my actions etc,,but the very fact they *force* us into doing or not doing something is wrong in my view. Don't you agree?

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Maybe I would, but I would be mindful of the fact there is a shortage and make sure I used as little as I needed to, whilst also giving thought to how long I spent in the shower etc at the same time so as to minimise my personal usage.
As it is, there is no control over any other water usage other than the hose.

I have a hot tub built into my garden and it takes 800 litres of water which needs to be changed every 4 weeks. If I fill it with a hose it takes 800 litres, now I have to fill it using a bucket from my outdoor tap, which spills some as you take it across the grass towards the tub. So I probably lose some 20 litres spilling out the bucket using this method out of a single 800 litre fill. So, I've *actually* used more water doing it the way the authorities have forced me to do it. Doesn't make sense.

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Blah Blah Blah

I want pics of Stan in a hot tub.

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