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ah I'm meaning a pressure test to see if its gone in the first place between cylinders...________________________________________
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 MCH_GTi6
formerly mch  Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 10th May 2012 at 15:02
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Sounds like it's gone between a chamber and a waterway, if it has gone.________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 15:13
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #28
so is it likely that it may be the head at fault then and I should get that checked?I've got 2 spare heads here if it is a dud... ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 15:14
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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No, the head's unlikely to be damaged. Mei's point is that you should have it checked over and pressure tested before having it skimmed.________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 15:17
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #30
ah ok, its a chap I know who will skim it so I'll ask him to check it all first________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 15:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Does indeed sound like HG to be honest with those symptoms.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 15:27
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #32
the pressure test I mean is done to a complete head off the engine, confirms the valves are seating as well as the cooling system is ok in the head.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 15:28
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
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Bit of an update...Drained and refilled the system and bled it at the 3 points Bulkhead by brake reservoir Thermostat housing Top of rad LOTS of bubbles and air... It now sits at below 70 for ages before slowly (very slowly) creaping to just past 90 and i mean slowly whereas when it happend yesterday it seemed to shoot up... got to temp and fans kicked in and knocked it to just below 90 where it stayed and was barely creaping up at all... BUT it does appear to be smoking (white vapour it looks to me) more than I think it should, my cat needs replacing though and that is a job I've been meaning to do and it is running rich due to this (decat and fitting kit ready to go on prob do tomorrow) ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 18:43
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #34
The catalytic converter doesn't affect the fuel mixture.Excessive steam from the exhaust is a tell tale sign of HG failure though. See what happens with the coolant now; if it's pressurising the coolant then you'll know about it very soon. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 18:50
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Leave it to get up to temp, and then switch it off and let it cool.Come back to the car circa 8+ hours after it was last started, and remove the rad cap. You shouldn't hear a sound. If you hear a big "hiss" or the coolant comes firing out at you, it's pretty much a guaranteed HG failure. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 18:52
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #36
let it run for a while after bleeding and the level wasnt rising in the rad like it was before.I will see what its like when I take it out next... if it gets hot I'll pull over... I'll sort out buying the parts anyway as I get it all at trade so could flog it on if I dont end up using it all... ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 18:52
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Thought I'd go for a quick road test...went up to 80 on the temp when following a van but as soon as I got onto "open" road again it went back to barely above 70... Got dad to watch as I drove down the road after I'd got back before I put the car away and zero white smoke... WTF that was all about I dont know, he forgot the compression tester (left it by his toolbox) but I'll get him to bring it home tomorrow just to double check. ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 20:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #38
sounds like your stat is well and truly borked.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 21:15
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #39
I'll get a stat from the motor factors tomorrow... its only £7 so worth it for piece of mind________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 22:58
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,793 Status: Offline |
Post #40
just take the old one out and chuck it in a pan of boiling water and check the rubber seal on it________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 23:08
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Just buy one they are cheap enough________________________________________ |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 23:09
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
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MCH_GTi6 wrote: I'll get a stat from the motor factors tomorrow... its only £7 so worth it for piece of mind  ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 23:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #43
I wouldn't buy a stat from a factors to be honest...I did this years ago as it was £6 against Peugeot's £18. It got stuck open after only 1000 miles and borewashed an engine.  Got a replacement from Pug and it's been perfect, still running it years later in my current engine. Never again would I buy a thermostat from a factors...  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 01:23
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Ok thanks for the heads up! Glad I checked here before going  ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 06:57
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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MCH_GTi6 wrote: Ok thanks for the heads up! Glad I checked here before going Some items are fine from a factors, but in my experience a lot of the time if you buy cheap you end up buying twice. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 10:21
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #46
more of an update...Bleed the system and it behaves itself for a while... but it doesnt last... I have noticed though the plastic housing just under the filler for the rad has split, its blowing air bubbles so could this cause air to get in and cause air lock? I've not been using the car now. gonna see about getting the split plastic welded as its a nissens rad and its right on the join by the looks of it ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 12th May 2012 at 10:49
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #47
I think this is definatly your problem, it will be fine wen you bleed it for a wile. To be honest id replace the rad unless you can fix it good enough to hold pressure  ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 12th May 2012 at 10:52
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #48
I have a standard Rad here that I'll put on this weekend...Will see if i can get the other rad fixed... would be a shame to chuck it as its really good condition bar the bit where its obviously split (only knew as blew bubbles as I spilt a bit of water when bleeding) ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 12th May 2012 at 10:54
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I think it will cure your problem, bare in mind the normal engine temp will be slightly higher than the nissens (i think)________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 12th May 2012 at 10:57
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #50
yeah I noticed a drop when I first fitted it...________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
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Posted 12th May 2012 at 10:59
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